The Morning Report 10.21.2015 | Mets Flat Out Playing Better, Mets Young Aces Exposing Cubs Major Flaw, Who Built This Team? Minaya or Alderson?


John Harper NY Daily News- For two days Joe Maddon had said all he wanted for Game 3 was warmer weather, as if that would unleash the Cubs’ sluggers, and by Tuesday you could tell that Terry Collins was tired of hearing it. “I know they’re back in their park and it’s warmer and that’s conducive to their lineup," Collins said. “But we have power too. You look at our power numbers from August on, and we’re dangerous. So I think this park is going to help us as much as it helps them." Then the Mets went out and backed him up on that. Jacob deGrom delivered again and the Mets banged the ball around the Friendly Confines of Wrigley Field for 11 hits, including — what else? — another Daniel Murphy home run.

(Chris Soto: Good Pitching will beat good hitting 8 times out of 10 and right now the Cubs are just being flat out dominated by the Mets young hard throwing rotation. deGrom once again did not have command of his fastball....but just like Game 5 of the NLDS, he used his change-up and breaking pitches more frequently to keep hitters off balance and gutted his way through 7 IP. It also helps when Daniel Murphy is so hot that staring into his eyes causes third degree burns. He became only the 2nd player in MLB history to hit HRs in 5 straight postseason games, tying Carlos Beltran for the all-time record.)

Michael Baron Just Mets- By all accounts, the Cubs came into the National League Championship Series with a young, energetic, balanced and high-octane offense. But they’re not perfect by any means. According to research performed at ESPN, the Cubs were last in the league at hitting fastballs over 94 mph with a .229 average. Matt Harvey (96 mph), Jacob deGrom (95.5 mph) and Noah Syndergaard (97.7 mph) are in the top five in pitches thrown over 94 mph. Jeurys Familia’s average velocity on his fastball was 96 mph, his splitter 94 mph. The Mets as a team threw the most pitches over 95 mph in baseball during the regular year in 2015, and it’s not even close.

(Chris Soto: This same stat was mentioned a few months ago when we were evaluating why Bryce Harper was struggling so badly against Matt Harvey. Fastballs in the upper 90's, WITH MOVEMENT, that can placed on the corners are darn near impossible to hit. The Cubs were the highest Strikeout team in baseball this season and unfortunately for them....they ran into the highest K rate SP rotation in baseball. This was a matchup that always favored the Mets....they just needed to score enough runs to win the games....and they certainly have done that.) 

Jon Heyman CBS Sports-  Is this Sandy Alderson's Mets team? Well, surely it is. But is it also Omar Minaya's team? There's been some debate lately as to whether Alderson, the Mets current general manager, or his predecessor Omar Minaya, deserves the bulk of the credit for this Mets team that's [one] game from the World Series. Minaya was a much better general manager than most understood at the time, and an extraordinary procurer of talent. Alderson, of course, made some excellent trades, and formed a very fine team that's playing its best baseball when it most counts, so he and his guys deserve serious kudos. Alderson and Minaya actually make a perfect tag team, and together they acquired all but one of the key players on an excellent team that may be a juggernaut for the foreseeable future.

(Chris Soto: When Alderson inherited the team from Minaya in 09, The minor league wasn't entirely barren, but there was a significant talent disparity between the upper minors and the lower minors. It took a few years but the talented guys Minaya left behind did eventually make their way to the MLB. To make an analogy, Minaya sort of provided the edges the puzzle. Providing Sandy with Harvey, Matz, Murphy, and the Latin guys in Lagares, Flores, and Familia. However, it was the Alderson regime that made the team whole. Adding the middle pieces such as deGrom's development, trading Dickey for Syndergaard and d'Arnaud, trading for Cespedes, Clippard, Johnson, Uribe, and Reed, along with signing Grandy and Cuddyer. I certainly won't give Alderson ALL the credit....but in my opinion....he deserves about 80% of it.) 


Thomas Brennan said...

That is an amazing Cubs stat, regarding low BA vs. high velocity pitches. They'll see more such velocity from Matz tonight.

My brother said Mike Francesca said the Mets' top 3 starters are the best trio in baseball and could carry them at the top for years. Wait til Matz hits hiscstride and Wheeler returns. Phew

Baseball should re-define that ivy rule. They were robbed of a run there.

Murphy is surreal...he is doing it all, not just homer, but beating out infield hit and scoring on that Duda chopper.

Conforto smokes 2 line drives and his best at bat was striking out.

Cespedes has barely missed 2 homers this series. Those go out and he would be spoken of as having a terrific playoffs so far. Sign the guy.

Ernest Dove said...

Well for many obvious reasons I want Mets to close it out tonight and bluejays to extend their series..........
Mets huge advantage this postseason has been ability to start 4 above average arms.......but even though its produced all playoffs I'd still like a bullpen arm like Familia to get extra rest in addition to those scheduled days off.
If Mets win tonight and get extra rest I'd predict Familia will be 100% available for every world series game and pitch more than one inning whenever as needed.

Mack Ade said...

The ivy rule has been in effect since day one... if you have a runner on first and he crosses home, gets on a bus, and goes to Cincinnati, he still have to go back to third if the ball gets lost in the ivy.

this is unbelievable Mets baseball

TP said...

Good morning, and a good morning it is. All I can say is that the team has been just great. That said, you haven't won anything in a best of 7 until you get the 4th win. They need to keep their foot on the pedal, and hopefully Mr. Matz will gain some command back on regular rest.

Tug said it..so believe it.

IBfromWhitePlains said...

Last night’s win was pure patience, hustle and execution. Great game.

Alexander Han said...

TP, agreed, they haven't won anything yet.

But whatever happens, they've made us all giddy with success. Watching this team gel together and gather more and more momentum until currently they are steamrolling through the playoffs. it just keeps getting better and better. The most amazing thing is, they have during the playoffs looked like the more confident team, the team that gets those little things done that you need to win.

Unreal. How long have we waited for this?!

Lew Rhodes said...

Nice to see the Mets executing in all phases of the game - I am too used to this team being the one with the fielding lapses - nice to see the other guys screw it up.

The Mets' starting pitching is ridiculous - Matz isn't getting any love in the national discussions - which makes the dominance of this rotation even better.

These guys are putting the 85-86 staffs to shame - and, it may be saccrilege, but right now I think:

deGrom, Harvey, Syndergaard, Matz > Seaver, Koosman, Ryan, Gentry

At least the 1969 versions.

Familia - the new Rivera?

Lew Rhodes said...

On who built this team - I know Omar procurred a lot of these players - but I wouldn't have trusted him to have the patience to let them develop through the minors.

I given Sandy and his staff all the credit for developing Jake, Familaia and some of the other lesser heralded prospects into top line players

Clyde McNell Jr. said...

Omar and his scouts deserve credit for the talent, but every team has talent, it's about how you incorporate that talent into a winning ball club. Lets remember his tenure as Mets GM. A lot of our top guys now who were young prospects then would have been traded long ago for veterans or rentals. He's a good talent evaluator, but Sandy had to deal with NO MONEY (low payroll), waiting years for talent to be developed, and NY pressure from fans and media. What he's done is remarkable and he should be commended.

Clyde McNell Jr. said...

I recall seeing a game where the batter hit a ground rule double with a runner on first, by the time the ball hit over the fence the runner was nearly home, the umpires made a judgment call and counted the run, now that's been years ago, has the rule changed

Hobie said...

You know, when Fowler did not take that extra base after the ball slipped out of Grandy's hand on that double, I said to myself, "That's the difference."

Daniel steals third on a BB, David tags up from 1B on an F7.

Does TC get same credit for this?

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Thomas Brennan said...

Good point, Clyde, I seem to remember a similar scenario once where a baserunner was allowed to score on a ground rule double. This ball unlike virtually all ground rule doubles stayed in the park. In that situation, i think the ump should have discretion to allow a guy to score last night when evidence is overwhelming in that regard. If Cespedes hit that ball, he'd have gone inside the park HR.

Thankfully, no impact on them winning.

Thomas Brennan said...

Hobie, I think TC deserves tons of credit. You're right.

Lew, I agree with you on Alderson. Masterful when it counted. Our wait has been painful, but he has us set up for perhaps the best stretch of years in franchise history.

bob gregory said...

Alderson? Minaya?

Truth is, the Mets would not be where they are today with out either of these gentlemen.

Nobody really knows what Minaya would have done if he was placed under the same budget constraints Alderson has worked under the past few years?


Nobody really knows what Alderson would have done if he enjoyed all of the financial resources that Minaya enjoyed.

Michael S. said...

When Alderson took over, he had barely anything to work with. Minaya built a competitive club through free agency and was able to lay the foundation for what we're seeing now in the long term (from his perspective at the time) but he failed miserably in worrying about bridging between the two.

Sure, Omar had always been praised for his scouting and has an eye for talent. However, he was a terrible GM because he couldn't properly value that talent, either in trades or in contracts. We also don't know who of the current roster would actually be here if Omar was GM - instead of dealing Beltran and Dickey for prospects, Omar could've easily done the opposite and dealt some of his younger talent for more established major leaguers.

I give him about as much credit as I'd give any scout from the previous regime. This is Sandy's team. He patiently waited on the development and made shrewd trades.

bob gregory said...

Would Alderson have been as patient waiting if he had the same financial advantage Omar enjoyed??

Would he have unloaded younger talent (like he did this summer) if he was able to afford other more expensive alternatives at earlier trading deadlines?

hard to say....

Michael S. said...

I don't think we would've seen Sandy handing out ridiculously bad Castillo and Perez contracts like Omar. He'd probably have signed Peralta and traded for Upton, but that's the only difference I see. Sandy brought in DePo and Ricciardi specifically to help the team build a young pipeline. Sandy has a discipline that Omar never did.

Mack Ade said...

Clyde/Thomas -

I'm sure you've seen ground rule plays like that but not in Chicago.

The Cubs have their own rule for the Ivy... two bases. all runners

Stubby said...

The home team determines the ground rules for their own park. MLB has nothing to do with it. So MLB can't change them. The reason for that is simple. Every ballpark is unique (even when they were doing cookie cutter ballparks, they were unique) and baseball can't set rules across the board for the unique feature of one park. Don't expect the ivy rule to ever change and, so long as it is applied to both teams, the Cubs will have games where it hurts them too.

As for whose team this is....it is ours. Let's enjoy it and save the argument for another day.


Hobie said...

Here's the rule:

Each runner including the batter-runner may, without liability to be put out, advance --
(f) Two bases, if a fair ball bounces or is deflected into the stands outside the first or third base foul lines; or if it goes through or under a field fence, or through or under a scoreboard, or through or under shrubbery or vines on the fence; or if it sticks in such fence, scoreboard, shrubbery or vines;

It's an mlb rule not a Wrigley Rule.

Thomas Brennan said...

I don't like ivy, particularly poison ivy, which I've gotten nasty rashes from many times. Heck, I don't even like Ivy League schools.

They ought to ditch the ivy and have a normal wall out there, in my opinion,and one that a guy won't kill himself tripping and running into trying to field something.

Mack Ade said...

Tom -

Are you calling for building a wall?

Stubby said...

Except, Hobie, if a ball bounces over the fence, whatever, the umpire has the discretion to rule that the runner would have scored anyway and allow the run. I've seen them do it numerous times. There's no umpire discretion at Wrigley. Ball goes into the ivy, you get two bases. Period.

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