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If he truly likes it here, he should. But, post-COVID, maybe he thinks offers will be higher at season's end. I think if he shows some flexibility, Cohen should pull the trigger. Don't be a Wilpon, be a Cohen.
My vote is that Lindor says no.
This is not a Wilpon situation. I think Cohen made a solid offer but I am like Bill and a little surprised it is all public. Not having the deferrals makes the deal higher than others. The Mets gping public with their offer shows they are frustrated.
I vote no.
My guess is that this process is over.
Plan would be:
1. Start him at SS this year.
2. Trade him in fall if we are out of it.
3. If not, play him thru a WS run.
4. QO him.
5. Get a draft pick when he gets 400m from another team.
6. Try to sign one of the other FA SS in the off season
7. If not successful play Guillorme there in 2022 until Mauricio is ready.
We should not offer any more and if we do get to free agency then Cory or story would be the better play especially at probably 50 million less
It's the only way to go.
If he doesn't sign. he will be rosted by what ever fans are allowed into the ballpark. He has no idea what he is in for. Especially, if Gimenez has a higher WAR than him again this year.
This is another egg on the face of Sandy. This is the third major negotiation he has blown. He didn't sign Springer, didn't sign Bauer and now won't sign Lindor.
You don't make an offer unless you know it will be accepted just like you don't give a girl a ring if she is going to think about it.
"Think it overs" and "I'll be back" are a polite no. It is basic sales and basic negotiation.
This is one of those questions that could take 5,000 words to answer.
But briefly, no, a deal does not get done.
Cohen, "Oh, that's sad, I felt we made a generous offer; we'll talk again in the winter."
Then Mets pivot, sign Conforto, open talks with Thor, etc.
Lindor could easily sign with Mets in the offseason. Just couldn't reach an agreement on time.
If I'm Cohen, I offer 11/$340 and give him 24 hours to take it or the offer expires.
If he doesn't sign now, we're fine.
Lindor would be an absolute fool to walk away from this deal.
I'm good with whatever happens, though I don't want to see Cohen cave to the 12/$385. It would kill him in every future negotiation.
And Pete should shut up. His brain is not that big.
As some of you may know, I strongly believe that bloggers and internet posters do NOT represent the common, everyday fan -- which is the overwhelming majority of fans. My sense is that those guys look at Lindor walking away from $325 million and feel more than a little disgusted with the state of the game overall. It's like he's rejecting us. So, screw that, we'll sign Correa or Baez or Story instead and save $100 million.
Or, come winter, we'll sign Lindor.
No way is Guillorme the starting SS in 2022.
Bottom line: I have no problem with whatever Cohen decides to do. It was a generous offer. I also don't mind if Mets go 12 years at a reduced AAV.
I'm good with whatever.
Jimmy
Jimmy - it makes sense. if Cohen is generous as heck, but Lindor does not agree now, yes, move on to Conforto. You've demonstrated you have the ability to say no. Conforto (and Boras) will hear that.
Then Thor.
Then a premier SS in the off season. If Lindor excels, and parties agree, it can be him. If not, Trevor Storey is one guy my brother never stops talking about.
But Lindor needs to understand that a lot of fans will be unhappy at him. If he plays like an MVP, they'll calm down. If not, they will LOUDLY express their displeasure. As only NY fans can do.
Seeing the Nets get Harden, and how well he has done, sure makes you hope Lindor does sign and then the franchise can move into the same "If you build it, they will come" mode. First they got a damaged Durant and an Irving. Then Harden wanted in. Then Blake Griffin, then Aldridge. Stay healthy, that is one MIGHTY tough team to keep from winning the title. But that crescendo had to start somewhere.
I think the PR nightmare of allowing him to leave will be worse than the extra money it will take to get him to sign. You do realize if he leaves in quest of nearly $400 million then he's set the bar for all of the other shortstop options. I'm not confident, but I do believe the Mets will sign him or get totally eviscerated by everyone -- media, fans, fellow players and agents.
Totally eviscerated by everyone? Really?
That's not my read on this at all. And it's not reflected on the polls that have taken place or the majority of the "expert" commentary.
Most people see that Cohen and the Mets made a very generous offer, worth more than what the Dodgers gave Betts. But Lindor has asked for $60 million beyond that.
Of course, some people. Some people whine about everything, it seems.
I'd like to see Lindor sign, but that may have to wait for the winter. Public opinion is behind the Mets on this one, and so am I.
Jimmy
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