1/4/21

Reese Kaplan -- No More Charlie Browns on the Mound!

Have a chat with your fellow Mets fans and to hear them build up a passionate viewpoint you would think that the club was struggling to score runs.  It seems that memory is not what it used to be and they quickly forgot that the team had the best average in the entire league last year, yet they finished at the bottom of the standings not due to hitting but as a result of pitching.  While most folks are laser focused on the contract that should be offered to George Springer, the fact is that adding another bat isn’t going to make a dramatic difference in the standings.


On the pitching side, I’ve dwelt several times on the poor value for dollars spent that Trevor Bauer would add to the team.  As a quick refresher he is seeking a contract to exceed his former college teammate Gerrit Cole who suckered the Yankees into a nine-year deal last season worth $36 million per season.  Behind that haul comes the Washington Nationals hurler Stephen Strasburg at $245 million.  Not coincidentally, both are clients of Scott Boras.  In Strasburg’s case he must struggle on a tad below $36 million per season for eight years.  

Now as a point of comparison, they are both fine pitchers.  Cole and Strasburg coincidentally both sport career ERAs of a very respectable 3.19.  That performance certainly ranks as premium class pitching, though fall below the pauper Jacob deGrom who owns a 2.61 career ERA and somehow has to survive on a mere $31 million or so for that paltry effort.  


Bauer is not in the class of these three pitchers.  His career ERA even after last season’s stellar 1.73 ERA is a rather pedestrian metric of 3.90 that came DOWN to that number after his one Cy Young worthy abbreviated year.  He’s looking for something in the $37 million or more per season for multiple years.  There’s no way to slice it.  That kind of offer would even embarrass the Yankees who have done similar foolish contracts in the past.  



Ironically, the weekend was full of derision for the prospect of adding pitcher Tomoyuki Sugano who has been posted by the Yomiuri Giants after spending eight seasons helping them win ballgames.  During that time period he has a record of 101-50, a 2.34 ERA, a great WHIP of 1.034 and remarkable control.  He’s an 8 strikeout per 9 IP hurler, but also offers up fewer than 2 walks during the same span.  All of those numbers are indeed enviable and would fit well on any of the 30 major league rosters.


Of course, Mets fans were dead set against including Sugano as a part of the new roster.  “He’s another Ryota Igarashi!”  True, Igarashi was a mediocre player with a 6.41 ERA in the major leagues after pitching to a 2.93 Japanese ERA.  Others countered he was no better than Masato Yoshii who offered up a losing record to go along with a better but still mediocre 4.62 ERA in the majors.  


These same folks quickly forgot all about other Asian-born ballplayers like Hyun-Jin Ryu, Hisashi Iwakuma, Yu Darvish, Hiroki Kuroda or even Hideo Nomo, all of whom performed at much higher levels than anyone on the Mets except deGrom.  What you hear then is, “They are the exception to the rule!  Foreign born players almost never succeed!”


Hmmn, doesn’t that same logic apply to American-born, Central American-born and South American-born ballplayers as well?  How have stunning prospects like Corey Oswalt or Mel Rojas or Butch Metzger?  It would seem that the vast majority of players from the Americas also fail to perform at a star level, too, but no one has problems going back to that poisoned well again and again.  I’m not suggesting Asian born players are better, but they aren’t worse.  



As it stands right now the Mets rotation for 2021 includes deGrom, Marcus Stroman and David Peterson.  After that it’s a major set of question marks.  Do you want more of the great reliever who cannot start in Seth Lugo?  Ditto Robert Gsellman (though calling him great at anything is a major stretch)?  The team needs pitching and a free agent with no player compensation attached to his contract seems the recipe the club is seeking.  Pitchers with good control can win in the majors.  Remember a guy named Greg Maddux?  


I would like to see the Mets make some significant strides in the starting rotation which will enable them to return the outstanding Seth Lugo to reinforce the bullpen.  But hey, maybe I’m crazy. 


8 comments:

Tom Brennan said...

Reese, good morning and happy 2021.

It is true - most fail. I thought that Paul Sewald at one point might be able to emulate in some limited fashion Greg Maddux or even a Rick Reed. Not even close.

What I saw of Sugano I liked. Bauer wants 3 things after his brief breakout season: the sun, the moon and the stars.

This team realistically needs lots of added pitching and D. January is going to be a big Mets month in raising the Mets from a projected 70 wins in 2020 to 95+ in 2021. Getting Stroman and more than half a season of Thor ought to really help. Two-three more pitchers needed - considering injuries, let's get 3.

Remember1969 said...

Well said, Bauer is not worth the money he is asking for.

I would be happy with Sugano. Perhaps Tanaka would be a good pairing?

I would still like to see them sign Taijuan Walker. James Paxton is also up there on my list of comeback pitchers.

I also think that improving the defense makes the pitching better automatically. I think of Springer in terms of what he can bring defensively even more than with the bat.

Reese Kaplan said...

Heyman is tweeting out that Sugano has a four-year deal in Japan and Mets are out. He wanted an opt-out after each American year and the Mets said no.

Herb G said...

Reese, you are by no means crazy. Your observations are spot on. Sugano was my first choice, and I was sorry to read Heyman's tweet that the Mets are seemingly out. (Although his wording didn't seem definitive - "it appears their main focus is elsewhere.") I still have a glimmer of hope, although I also have great confidence in Sandy and believe he will do what is in the best interests of the team in both the near and long term.

I have been saying, from the very start of the off-season, that Bauer is not the elite pitcher he is being painted to be, and that he is more adept with his mouth than with his arm. I would love to see the Mets sign Kluber, if he is deemed healthy, possibly trade for Castillo, but in any case add 2 quality starters from among Tanaka, Walker, Quintana, Paxton, Odorizzi, or perhaps Gray. Then, if Thor comes back strong in June, trade Stroman for 2 or 3 top prospects to help restock the farm. I think a rotation of deGrom, Syndergaard, Tanaka, Walker & Peterson (with Matz and Szapucki for depth) could serve us well after the break and into the post season.

Oh, and btw, regarding your Springer comment that "adding another bat isn’t going to make a dramatic difference," remember the immortal Casey Stengel quote (although he was referring to a different position) paraphrasing, "if you don't have a center fielder, anything hit up the middle rolls all the way to the wall." lol.

bill metsiac said...

Herb, I agree with a lot of your points, but a strong June for Syndergaard doesn't make Stro expendable. Even if the Mets are willing to trade Stro, who is going to trade "2 or 3 TOP prospects" for a 3-month rental of him, not to mention his salary? Plus, if we're contending, why trade Stro at all? If he's doing great things, he'll take us to the post-season. If he's not, we'll get nothing of value in return.

I've been debating the Japanese vs US issue with Reese for years. Yes, players who succeed in AAA here may be as likely to fail as those who succeed there. But when AAA players are brought up, they earn ML Minimum salaries, don't reach Arbi for years, and can be demoted or even released at any time. Would a star from Japan come here for similar terms? Would any ML team offer 4-year guarantees for big bucks to a AAA player?

An article at another site ppinted out that Sugano and Tanaka had similar stats in Japan. But Tanaka has proven himself in a tough market at the ML level. Sugano hasn't thrown an inning here. I'd go for Tanaka in a heartbeat, but be cautious about Sugano.

Tom Brennan said...

Herb, that was a great Stengel quote

Rick Miller said...

Yup, great Casey quote about needing a catcher.

We were all excited about getting a billionaire as an owner.
Who needs a billionaires if he won’t take chances and overspend in doing so?
The billions help you overcome your mistakes.
So, I’m ready for my billionaire owner to start overspending.
Bauer is the best pitcher out there. We are desperate for a high quality pitcher.
Cmon billionaire owner! So far I’m hearing lots of Wilpon rationalizations for not doing the extravagant thing.

Tom Brennan said...

Rick, my brother said the exact same thing about Bauer today. You have good company.