ANOTHER baseball stat???
There was some commenter interest piqued this week by a line in
Reese's "Sometimes the Hitters are ahead of the Pitchers" piece. Reese lamented that the one downside of Brandon
Nimmo's spring was having only one RBI.
This led to discussion about RBI opportunities, and in particular Bill
Metsiac wanting to have a Left On Base stat of some nature.
It is quite odd that the number of men left on base is a column in the daily box score, but it doesn't seem to be aggregated into any larger body or kept an official stat. You can find and cut data a million ways in Baseball-Reference, but LOB is not among it.
What does exist in the 'Splits' section of each player is detail plate appearance data broken down by each of the eight combinations of runners on base - no runners, runner on first, runner on second, runner on third, runners on first and second, runners on first and third, runners on second and third and bases loaded.
From this, I invented my new stat called "Run Production Ratio" or RPR. The intent is to find the percentage of runners that were on base when that batter came to the plate that actually scored. The inverse (1.00 - RPR) is the LOB percentage.
I calculated 3 different RPR values :
* Net RBI for Total Runners on Base. This is all plate appearances where the bases are not empty, but without regard for how many or where the runners are placed.
* Net RBI for Total Runners on Base when at least one of them is in scoring position. As defined, this is the scenario where there has to be a runner on either second or third base, but could be both, and could also have runners on first.
* Net RBI for Total Runners on Base when at least one of them is on third base. This could be first and third, second and third, third by itself, or bases loaded.
I have considered this only with the 'total runners' concept. There is no apparent way to tell exactly which runners scored. For example, there is a stat line for all plate appearances with runners on first and third, with his RBI's in that situation. It cannot be known how many of those RBIs were just the guy on third or whether he also drove in the guy that was on first.
The "Net RBI" concept is the total RBIs in each situation minus any home runs hit - a home run is an RBI, but that runner was not on base to start the plate appearance.
With all of this, I calculated the career values for Brandon Nimmo, Pete Alonso, and Franciso Lindor.
Nimmo:
Has come to the plate 477 times with runners on base with a total of 663 runners. In those situations, he has 91 RBI with 9 homers for a Net RBI of 82 and an RPR of 82/663 or 0.124
Has come to the plate 288 times with at least one runner in scoring position with a total of 474 runners. Here he has 83 RBI with 6 homers for a Net RBI of 77 and an RPR of 77/474 or .162
Has come to the plate 110 times with at least one runner on third base with a total of 223 runners. Here he has 46 RBI with 2 homers for a Net RBI of 44 and an RPR of 44/223 or .197
Alonso:
Has come to the plate 434 times with runners on base with a total of 597 runners. In those situations, he has 116 RBI with 30 homers for a Net RBI of 86 and an RPR of 86/597 or 0.144
Has come to the plate 238 times with at least one runner in scoring position with a total of 401 runners. Here he has 87 RBI with 18 homers for a Net RBI of 69 and an RPR of 69/401 or .172
Has come to the plate 103 times with at least one runner on third base with a total of 203 runners. Here he has 52 RBI with 7 homers for a Net RBI of 45 and an RPR of 45/203 or .222
Lindor:
Has come to the plate 1349 times with runners on base with a total of 1860 runners. In those situations, he has 313 RBI with 40 homers for a Net RBI of 273 and an RPR of 273/1860 or 0.147
Has come to the plate 826 times with at least one runner in scoring position with a total of 1337 runners. Here he has 267 RBI with 21 homers for a Net RBI of 246 and an RPR of 246/1337 or .184
Has come to the plate 355 times with at least one runner on third base with a total of 680 runners. Here he has 171 RBI with 9 homers for a Net RBI of 162 and an RPR of 162/680 or .238
So, with runners on base, in all situations, Lindor > Alonso > Nimmo for driving in runners over their careers. I guess this makes Nimmo an ideal leadoff man?
Since these were the first three players I ever calculated this for, I don't know what the gold standard for these numbers might be.
I thought Hank Aaron, the all time leader in RBI might provide some insight.
As guessed, Hank Aaron outhit all of our current favorites:
All situations with runners on base: Aaron's RPR is .170 (1498 net RBI for 8806 runners)
With runners in scoring position: RPR = .216 (1249 net RBI / 5795 runners)
With a runner on third: RPR = .260 (688/2650)
In summary, this does not consider HOW the runners were driven in, whether base hit, walk, sac fly, safety squeeze, hit by pitch, or ground out (can there be any others?), but just simply states what percentage of runners on base scored for all plate appearances by the batter. It also does not tell what percentage of the time a batter drives in a runner on third base.
Lastly, these splits are available by season as well as for full careers. If I get more time, I may go through somebody like Lindor to see how consistent the RPR number holds through the career.
Unfortunately, these splits do not exist for spring training games, so we cannot determine how many runners Nimmo has left on base with his current .000 RPR. His lone RBI was a solo homer.
What do you think?
I could
probably spend a lot of the summer generating RPR stats for a lot of
hitters. I simplified it somewhat by
pasting numbers in a spreadsheet and creating some formulas, but I'd need a
full program to do much more. I'll try
to do the current team and some other players over time and see if anything
stands out.
It is quite odd that the number of men left on base is a column in the daily box score, but it doesn't seem to be aggregated into any larger body or kept an official stat. You can find and cut data a million ways in Baseball-Reference, but LOB is not among it.
What does exist in the 'Splits' section of each player is detail plate appearance data broken down by each of the eight combinations of runners on base - no runners, runner on first, runner on second, runner on third, runners on first and second, runners on first and third, runners on second and third and bases loaded.
From this, I invented my new stat called "Run Production Ratio" or RPR. The intent is to find the percentage of runners that were on base when that batter came to the plate that actually scored. The inverse (1.00 - RPR) is the LOB percentage.
I calculated 3 different RPR values :
* Net RBI for Total Runners on Base. This is all plate appearances where the bases are not empty, but without regard for how many or where the runners are placed.
* Net RBI for Total Runners on Base when at least one of them is in scoring position. As defined, this is the scenario where there has to be a runner on either second or third base, but could be both, and could also have runners on first.
* Net RBI for Total Runners on Base when at least one of them is on third base. This could be first and third, second and third, third by itself, or bases loaded.
I have considered this only with the 'total runners' concept. There is no apparent way to tell exactly which runners scored. For example, there is a stat line for all plate appearances with runners on first and third, with his RBI's in that situation. It cannot be known how many of those RBIs were just the guy on third or whether he also drove in the guy that was on first.
The "Net RBI" concept is the total RBIs in each situation minus any home runs hit - a home run is an RBI, but that runner was not on base to start the plate appearance.
With all of this, I calculated the career values for Brandon Nimmo, Pete Alonso, and Franciso Lindor.
Nimmo:
Has come to the plate 477 times with runners on base with a total of 663 runners. In those situations, he has 91 RBI with 9 homers for a Net RBI of 82 and an RPR of 82/663 or 0.124
Has come to the plate 288 times with at least one runner in scoring position with a total of 474 runners. Here he has 83 RBI with 6 homers for a Net RBI of 77 and an RPR of 77/474 or .162
Has come to the plate 110 times with at least one runner on third base with a total of 223 runners. Here he has 46 RBI with 2 homers for a Net RBI of 44 and an RPR of 44/223 or .197
Alonso:
Has come to the plate 434 times with runners on base with a total of 597 runners. In those situations, he has 116 RBI with 30 homers for a Net RBI of 86 and an RPR of 86/597 or 0.144
Has come to the plate 238 times with at least one runner in scoring position with a total of 401 runners. Here he has 87 RBI with 18 homers for a Net RBI of 69 and an RPR of 69/401 or .172
Has come to the plate 103 times with at least one runner on third base with a total of 203 runners. Here he has 52 RBI with 7 homers for a Net RBI of 45 and an RPR of 45/203 or .222
Lindor:
Has come to the plate 1349 times with runners on base with a total of 1860 runners. In those situations, he has 313 RBI with 40 homers for a Net RBI of 273 and an RPR of 273/1860 or 0.147
Has come to the plate 826 times with at least one runner in scoring position with a total of 1337 runners. Here he has 267 RBI with 21 homers for a Net RBI of 246 and an RPR of 246/1337 or .184
Has come to the plate 355 times with at least one runner on third base with a total of 680 runners. Here he has 171 RBI with 9 homers for a Net RBI of 162 and an RPR of 162/680 or .238
So, with runners on base, in all situations, Lindor > Alonso > Nimmo for driving in runners over their careers. I guess this makes Nimmo an ideal leadoff man?
Since these were the first three players I ever calculated this for, I don't know what the gold standard for these numbers might be.
I thought Hank Aaron, the all time leader in RBI might provide some insight.
As guessed, Hank Aaron outhit all of our current favorites:
All situations with runners on base: Aaron's RPR is .170 (1498 net RBI for 8806 runners)
With runners in scoring position: RPR = .216 (1249 net RBI / 5795 runners)
With a runner on third: RPR = .260 (688/2650)
In summary, this does not consider HOW the runners were driven in, whether base hit, walk, sac fly, safety squeeze, hit by pitch, or ground out (can there be any others?), but just simply states what percentage of runners on base scored for all plate appearances by the batter. It also does not tell what percentage of the time a batter drives in a runner on third base.
Lastly, these splits are available by season as well as for full careers. If I get more time, I may go through somebody like Lindor to see how consistent the RPR number holds through the career.
Unfortunately, these splits do not exist for spring training games, so we cannot determine how many runners Nimmo has left on base with his current .000 RPR. His lone RBI was a solo homer.
What do you think?
Also, I'll figure out how
to create a table in a Mack's post which would make things much more readable.
15 comments:
1969 - This is really great stuff. It really is a great indicator of how effective a batter performs in key situations and helps explain why Ks are killing baseball. Maybe FanGraphs or Baseball Reference will pick this stat up in the future.
I was thinking that two great Mets Minor League players to apply this stat to would be Patrick Mazeika and Joe Genord. However, Baseball Reference only provides the Runners in Scoring Position Batting Average stat for these players. Just to my naked eye, both of those players seem to get a lot of RBIs on outs. It would be nice to be able to document that.
1969 - interesting stuff. But I do think you cannot divorce a player's homers from this calculation. An Alonso HR might be a Nimmo double, and Nimmo's would count towards your RPR while Pete's HR would not.
I looked a while ago - maybe looking in the wrong places - and could not find Pete's season total for LOB, but I did find it for the Mets as a whole - they had the worst LOB per game of any major league team. They need to move up to the middle of the pack there in 2021.
As John indicated, I think a player's average, and OBP, with RISP, and with RISP and 2 outs, are telling stats.
Assuming they are right, with 2 outs and RISP for his career, Pete is .203/.344/.468 - pretty bad. But in "Late and Close" situations, a very solid .269/.358/.571,
Albert Belle in his prime years must have put up great numbers in those situations - he was an RBI Beast.
Great work, 1969!That's as close as I can think of anyone I've ever seen to come up with a stat I've been looking for.
Obviously, someone batting behind an OBP machine like Nimmo will have more RBI opps than someone hitting behind the #8 and pitcher, so comparing their total RBIs doesn't tell the story.
I applaud your work! 👍
Fellas, Alonso had a really bad RBI year in 2020. Consider how many times Smith, McNeil, Nimmo and Conforto were on base in 2020, to only have 35 RBIs with 16 HRs meant he left the world on base - he should have had 50, not 35.
Do it!!!!!
Interesting pick up Tom.
Alonso's 2020 numbers:
All runners: .110 RPR
Runners in scoring postion: .116
With runner on third .125
Alsono's 2019 numbers:
All runners: .165 RPR
Runners in scoring postion: .202
With runner on third: .275
Dom Smith, on the other hand:
2020:
Total runners: .203
Runners in scoring position: .248
With runner on third: .311
Pretty good numbers. . let's keep this guy.
Dom's gotta stay healthy. I think he sits every time a lefty pitches. He'll still start 125 games and get 500 PAs. Pinch hit a lot. And he kills righties. At first base, he could probably play 145-150 as a starter. But Pete is exerting his will on that position for 2021.
Another nice call on Albert Belle:
Runners RBI HR Net RBI PA RPR
TRoB 4677 1045 187 858 3429 0.183
TRISP 3263 875 121 754 2015 0.231
TRo3 1657 526 56 470 896 0.284
I need to figure out a better way to show tabular data
Belle for his career:
Total
Runners RBI HR NetRBI PA RPR
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TRoB 4677 1045 187 858 3429 .183
TRISP 3263 875 121 754 2015 .231
TRo3 1657 526 56 470 896 .284
Those are best numbers of anyone I have looked at. Pujols is pretty good, but falls short of Belle.
shoot, that didn't display any better :-(
Tom. . just FYI. Dom had a .900 OPS against LHP in 2020 (albeit in a small sample of just 64 plate appearances.
This is a great post. Hard to believe with all of the advanced stats they are doing these days that no one is tracking this stuff.
1969, I only bring up the idea of platooning Smith because he seems a bit injury prone (e.g., stress fracture). Nothing I'd like more than Smith starting 150 games. I don't see it happening - they will want him on the field thru late October.
Belle had several RBI years that were like Ruth-Gehrig era stuff.
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