PIITB By JD- Mets Updates
We have some news this week! Nothing major Mets wise, but David Stearns made a couple savy moves.
12/18: Acquired Yohan Ramirez from the White Sox for cash
Stats:
Ramirez pitched to a 4.23 ERA last year with a 107 era+. While that may not look pretty at face value, the Mets believe they may have found something to tweak. He has some elite Savant rankings and not some not-so-good ones. He has elite extension, GB%, Hard hit%, and barrel%. These stats point to an ability to get outs. The Mets have to limit his walks. He is a low risk piece that took nothing to get.
12/20: Mets acquired RHP Adrian Houser and CF Tyrone Taylor from the Brewers for RHP Coleman Crow
Coleman Crow: Crow (22) was acquired from the Angels for Eduardo Escobar at the trade deadline this season. Crow has some upside and had success this season in just 4 starts. He pitched to a 1.88 Era in 28 innings. His minor league career era is 4.33. While I did like Crow, this was an easy decision.
Adrian Houser: Houser has a career 4.00 Era and has shown the ability to get outs consistently with a wicked 2-seam. He doesn’t walk many guys, limits barrels, and generates groundballs. This is a great depth piece and I could see him being the 5 on opening day.
Tyrone Taylor: Taylor can play all 3 OF positions at a high level. He showed a solid arm and plus speed. He also has a career 745 OPS. That is not a bad defense first piece off the bench.
The Mets essentially traded Eduardo Escobar for a 5 starter and a 4th OF.
I love this move for the Mets and it is fun to see what David Stearns does to get creative in his first offseason as Mets POBO.
The rotation has to be built around Senga, Quintana, and Severino. I could see the Mets going after Jordan Montgomery as long as his price remains reasonable. Steve seems to be drawing hard lines in the sand to avoid being used.
Hopefully, we will have more news next week. Happy Holidays!
17 comments:
Plan B commences. I will share my Yama comments at 11 AM
Crow ought to miss all of 2024, due to TJS, and likely would have needed 2025 to complete his minors tutelage. Great trade, in my opinion. The team is less threadbare with Adrian and Tyrone, who sound like they'd fit in in Howard Beach.
A 300 million offer us a "hard line"
Dodgers have spent 1.2 BILLION (with a B) dollars so far on 3 players
This is no longer a game
Cohen’s offer was matched by the Dodgers, who were afforded that luxury. Cohen wasn’t afforded the luxury of counter-offering. You get where that went and yes, he was used.
Well Merry friggin Christmas and Happy Holidays to one and all. Another Griswold fun family Christmas down the drain. Dam Dodgers again hey can we force them to move the team to Japan? I guess a sit down with Uncle Stevie didn't work so now what do all the other teams do from this point forward Mr. Commissioner? I'm still not over Selig not making the Wilpons sell after Madoff and giving the Evil Empire out west a get out of jail free card by forcing McCourt to sell Dam Dodgers! I'm not over this if you can tell as only a Snell Bellinger and Hader signing will do the trick for me. This build from the ground up crap doesn't work for me and most of us seniors on this site as were running out of time so DS whats the plan now!!!!!
Another thing with our bid so close why wouldn't SC throw in another 50 mil. becauce we all know in a few years top starters will be getting probably 40 mil a year or more right?
I’m upset by Yama not signing here but I don’t blame him. Dodgers are building a better team. Stearns hasn’t brought in any good FA’s. My issue is it doesn’t sound like he will this Offseason. So this team as currently constructed is worse than last year’s team. If he doesn’t bring in any good FA’s this year why wouldn’t Senga opt out and Pete go somewhere else. I wouldn’t blame them.
Stearns is building the Brewers who have never won it all and have one WS appearance in 1982. This guy sure has been a disappointment.
Amazin Z, are the Mets really worse if they go all-in on a killer pen?
Let's have Edwin and Raley, and add Hader, Ottavino, and Robertson, and see how that goes. That will probably blow up, too, of course. But if it doesn't, Joey might win 18 with that fivesome to relieve for him.
We've been played for turkeys and will have to settle for leftovers.
Well boys and girls, this is what happens when you put all your eggs in one basket.
The time where the Mets could have signed #2,3 type pitchers at a reasonable price vs talent is now gone.
Snell, Montgomery became more expensive after Ohtani and more expensive after Yamamoto. This is exactly why you don't wait on one player to build a team. You do that only when that is the missing player to complete the team. The Mets have plenty of holes to fill.
If I am the Mets, I would let it be known that they are willing to trade Pete Alonso and see what kind of offers come back. If he brings a couple of top prospects, trade him. Is not like this Mets team looks like a winner for 2024 anyway.
In 2025, Pete Alonso, Juan Soto along with many other top players will be available. Load up then and use 2024 to see what you have on Baty, Vientos. Too bad Mauricio got hurt, it would have been a big year for him to show his talent.
I would still bring in Justin Turner.
Tom, I agree, build that BP. This is what I don't understand. If the Mets would have signed Yamamoto, would they have kept the BP as is? no, so why wait to put it together?
Yamamoto had a choice of the mighty Dodgers vs a very incomplete Mets team for the same money. He made the right choice as the Dodgers are favorites to win the WS for years to come.
NL east Dodgers we are NOT.
Viper, I wonder about the logic of Steve Cohen. Fans are not interested in "nice try" - they want to win.
I really thought the Mets were 3rd in that 3 team dog race for a good while. Like you said, prices go up, so why not be a realist. Should have gone in other directions a lot sooner.
I happen to think that Steve Cohen might have a different reaction to this
More at 11am
The future is impossible to predict, but 325M for one player that has never thrown a major league pitch is a lot of money. We'll see what it looks like in 2035. If he compiles Tom Seaver stats, then we will cry. If he turns out to be a Garland (who was cut after 5 years of a 10 year deal) or even Tanaka, he is not worth that money.
What say about the same Senga contract for Imanaga at 5/75, or perhaps a bit more if necessary? For 20% of the cost, you get a lefty that will most likely give you better than 20% of Yama's results for the next 5 years.
And yes, I would like to see at least one more tried and true arm in that bullpen. Robertson is my choice.
Tom I’ve been saying, you can read my past posts, we need two good SP’s to replace Max and Verlander’s rotation spots and 2 RP’s to replace Ottavino and Robertson. Or at least bring both RP back since they like playing here.
If we add Montgomery, Imanaga and Ottavino, Robertson, or similar Pitchers you mean to tell me it doesn’t make the Mets a playoff competitive team this year. It also gives you a great core of SP’s for the next four years. Now if he only signs one top SP to save money for Burnes next year I’m fine with that. But he’s done nothing to make this team better than last year’s team. As of right now Senga is our only SP signed beyond this year and I think he has an opt out next year. I assume two of Scott, Vasil, Stuart, or Hamel can be the #4 and #5 guys but you still need a top 3. He has a lot to do over the next 4-5 weeks to show me he’s building something.
I just checked. Senga has an opt out after the ‘25 season if he pitches 400 innings in his first 3 years. So next year our Rotation is Senga and that’s it. I assume 2 of Scott, Stuart, Vasil, and Hamel are our #4 and #5 SP’s next year. So we need two SP’s to fill in next year’s rotation. So why not add at least one of them this year.
We are also going to need another healthy SP this year as Quintana, Severino, Luchessi, Megill, and Butto aren’t the pictures of Health. And Senga and Houser aren’t innings eaters.
This team as constructed is hot garbage. Maybe Stearns plan is to tank and get back in the Draft Lottery. lol. I don’t think that’s why Cohen hired him. I wonder if Cohen is having buyer’s remorse letting Stearns build his franchise into the future?
I know I’m jumping the gun but if this is basically the team Stearns goes into Spring Training with I won’t be re-upping my MLB package, going to see the Mets in Port St Lucie, when they play the Rays here in Tampa, and making my annual trip back to Citi Field this year.
I think that the Mets tried as hard as they could to sign the best pitcher available this year. He chose a different team and we did not get out-bid.
From here, there are a couple ways to go. I have seen several comments that immediately spring to spending lots of money because we haven't spent it on Yamamoto. I disagree. Montgomery and Snell will be overpriced because of this signing and the amount of competition, and both are not sure thing studs - they are just the best that's left.
I would spend money on the bullpen, because it will be used a lot this year no matter who else is gained as a starting pitcher. So until we have matured our own pitching talent that is in the minors, plan on a lot of 4-5 inning starts. If there is a strong pen and we don't have a disastrous year at the plate again, games can still be won.
Amazin Z you live in Tampa I'm in Sarasota wanna talk or email? seagren@verizon.net
Very cool. Yeah I’ll shoot you an email to get in touch.
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