There have been quite a few blog entries written about
how the Mets team is better today than they were last year. Let’s take a look at that conjecture and see
whether or not it passes muster.
1B
Ike Davis was coming off his incredibly hot second half
in 2012 so there were expectations it would carry over into 2013. Instead, his rally to a .227 average wasn’t
even within him and he was mercifully farmed out to Las Vegas in June where he
hit .293 with 7 HRs in 92 ABs giving hope that he had finally figured out
whatever was wrong. However, upon his
return he had morphed into the walking man with minimal power. Before the abdominal injury mercifully put
his season to an end, he finished his second stint in Queens by hitting .267
(respectable) but with just 4 HRs and 17 RBIs in 132 ABs. Extrapolated over a full season that would be
about 18 HRs and 74 RBIs. It’s probably
not the 32 HR guy they hoped he would be, but it was somewhat encouraging.
While Davis was on his Sin City holiday, Josh Satin
played 1B quite a bit and early returns were encouraging. He was hitting well against lefties but
eventually his Ks caught up with him and he didn’t hit with nearly enough power
to justify his K/AB percentage
Lucas Duda was handed 1B and mercifully brought out of
the outfield. The big man played
surprisingly competent defense at 1B, but that canard that he hits better while
playing first was proven wrong. In his final
month of the season playing 1B nearly every day he his .200 with 4 HRs and 10
RBIs. Extrapolated over a full season
that’s 24 HRs and 60 RBIs.
In 2014 the Mets appear to be planning to head into the
off-season with the same cast of characters.
Part of the equation is pitchers learning the batters’ weaknesses and
part of it is batters learning how to adjust.
Satin probably gets the benefit of doubt having had the least amount of
ABs in the majors, but it’s probably safe to say what you’ve seen with Davis
and Duda is what you’re going to get.
Verdict – Push
2B
Unless something major happens between now and opening
day, Daniel Murphy’s best offensive season sets the bar higher in terms of
expectations for the fans. He never
seems to get the respect he deserves, but he shows he will work to improve
himself (such as adding speed to his game this past year).
Verdict – Push
SS
The majority of the time at shortstop this year was
handled by El Paso native Omar Quintanilla.
He’s proven to be a guy who is capable in small doses but gets exposed
when playing too often. 2013 was no
exception with his .222 AVG, 2 HRs, 21 RBIs and 2 SBs with mediocre
defense.
Going into 2014 Ruben Tejada seems to be the default shortstop
option. If we write off his 2013 effort
to poor conditioning, injuries and falling out of favor with the team, let’s
look at his previous two years to see what he’s capable of doing. He’s posted an OBP as high as .360 and batted
an average of .287 for these two years.
He has no power and no speed but his better than average defense
suggests he is an improvement.
Verdict – 2014
3B
What can you say?
David Wright is one of the only offensive players on the Mets that
pretty much any team would love to have.
He’s due back to play 3B once again and we can only wish greater
health.
Verdict – Push
C
John Buck started out like the proverbial house afire,
but quickly cooled and was reverting to career norms by the time the season
ended. During his Mets tenure he hit
.215 with 15 HRs and 60 RBIs. The
previous season he’d hit .219 with 15 HRs and 62 RBIs in a total of 24 extra
ABs.
Travis d’Arnaud is still a mystery and more potential than track record. In his 2013 trial his defense far outshined his offense but he’s hit well at every level of the minors, including his 2011 season in which he hit 21 HRs with 78 RBIs while batting .311. His 99 ABs in the majors last year produced 1 HR, 5 RBIs and a .202 AVG. While he has the potential to be far better than any catcher the team has had since Mike Piazza left, the fact remains he’s all about potential right now.
Verdict – 2013
LF
Here’s a tough one.
You had part of the season manned by Lucas Duda, a large chunk by late
pickup Eric Young and assorted warm bodies such as Andrew Brown, Mike Baxter
and others. Let’s focus on Eric Young,
Jr. who played the majority of the season there. He is all about speed but not much else. He led the league in SBs but produced just 1
HR, 26 RBIs and a .251 AVG with a paltry .318 OBP.
The conventional wisdom has Curtis Granderson replacing
Eric Young in LF. He’s a totally
different type of ballplayer – one whose greatest attribute is power. He was once a plus defender but nowadays is
probably just average. In his Yankee
career while healthy he was a monster in terms of HRs and RBIs. Even in his injury plagued 2013 season he
sported a 1.1 WAR rating whereas in arguably Young’s best ever season he posted
a 0.9.
Verdict 2014
CF
Another tough call as it was manned in 2013 with everyone
from Collin Cowgill, Rick Ankiel, Kirk Nieuwenhuis, Jordany Valdespin, Juan
Lagares and Mike Baxter. The majority of
the ABs went to Lagares after the team discovered his defensive wizardy and
cannon of an arm.
While still not carved in stone, Lagares should see the
lion’s share of the time in CF this year as well. His Winter League numbers were encouraging
and his minor league career showed improving offense has he progressed through
the system including averages over prolonged periods of .346 and .370.
Verdict 2014
RF
Marlon Byrd was arguably the best move Sandy Alderson
ever made in his tenure as GM. Picking
up top prospects for star players may prove better in the future, but for part
of one year at nearly minimum wage Marlon Byrd played like an All Star. His final Mets numbers included a .285 AVG
with 21 HRs and 71 RBIs worth 4.0 WAR.
Chris Young was a ponderous pickup by the Mets. In many ways he’s living off of two good
seasons sprinkled among others in which he was an all-or-nothing hitter. He is definitely a good defender and has
baserunning skills but his last couple of seasons were nothing to brag
about. He’s had some better years but
given what he has produced recently he seems overpaid.
Verdict – 2013
Starting Rotation
2013 saw the emergence of Matt Harvey as an elite
starting pitcher, another solid effort from Jon Niese, recoveries by both
Dillon Gee and Jeremy Hefner who both started off quite poorly. When the Super Two boondoggle allowed the
Mets to promote Zack Wheeler in June, he rewarded them with the 3.42 ERA
through some up and down appearances. Of
course, there were starts that went to Aaron Harang, Daisuke Matsuzaka, Aaron
Laffey, Shaun Marcum, Carlos Torres, Collin McHugh and Jenrry Mejia. Of that group, Mejia, Torres, the latter
starts of Dice-K and Harang were credible.
The rest were forgettable.
In 2014 they’re starting off with Wheeler, Niese, Gee and
newcomer Bartolo Colon. They have Jenrry
Mejia healing from minor surgery. Rafael
Montero has nothing left to prove in AAA.
Noah Syndergaard may make the team later in the year, too. There are also others like Jacob deGrom and
Darin Gorski on the outside looking in.
Despite missing the Goodenesque season of Matt Harvey, the rotation
looks fairly solid this season. Hoping
for a 2013 repeat by Bartolo Colon is quite a dice roll.
Verdict – Push (only because of the depth in the minors)
Bullpen
The emergence of Bobby Parnell as a bona fide closer was
the highlight of 2013 until his neck problem prematurely shut down his season
early. Gonzalez Germen was the pitching
equivalent of Juan Lagares, someone not really on the prospect radar brought up
out of desperation and he exceeded expectations when given the chance. LaTroy Hawkins turned in one of the best
seasons of his career. Scott Rice was a
great find. Josh Edgin was doing alright
prior to his njury. Scott Atchison,
Brandon Lyon and David Aardsma were mediocre.
Greg Burke and Robert Carson were awful.
2014’s pen is a bit of a mess right now. No one seems to commit to whether or not
Bobby Parnell will be ready to start the season. If not, newcomer Vic Black is being touted as
the substitute closer. There’s no more
LaTroy Hawkins. The balance of the pen
should include Rice, Edgin, Germen, Carlos Torres and some from a group that
includes Ryan Reid, Joel CarreƱo and Jeurys Familia.
Verdict 2013
So if we recap, we have 4 pushes, 3 for 2014, and 3 for
2013. Management remains the same, so
that’s a push, too. Unless we see major
development from some of the younger players like d’Arnaud and Lagares, an infield position for Wilmer Flores, health
from Jenrry Mejia, health from Bobby Parnell and bounce back seasons from
Davis, Tejada and Chris Young, there’s little reason to expect much improvement
over the previous year.
14 comments:
Reese,
You may be the only one who thinks the catching position will be a push.
Outside of April Buck was just horribly bad.
It won't be very hard for d'Arnaud to top Buck's numbers.
Morning Reese and Mack;
Hope you guys had a great new years night?
I believe Organizational the Mets are better off than last year.
But think the main team is a push,without Harvey?
Saying that if they can add Drew and another pen member,without Losing Murphy. I think they would be better?
The minor league players have all taken a step forward,and within 2 years ,will be pushing the main team players.
Looking forward to the season ,and your comments
I agree with your assessment. 1 question is grandersons arm really not that good for right field? Cause if it is I would prefer to put him in right and chris young in left, just because if CY doesn't perform it's easier to put in EY jr there. I don't think they will wanna play musical chairs with Granderson?
I agree Zozo.
Reese is not the first writer that has placed Granderson in LF and quick frankly I'm not sure why.
Granderson's arm grades out as average even in RF so no +/- there and in addition Chris Young was learning LF when he was in Oakland and stating that learning the new position was a strain on him mentally which carried over to the plate.
Young also states that he became more comfortable in LF as the season went along so why would we put him through an additional uncomfortable situation by having him learn RF when Granderson was already expose to RF for a couple of games by the Yankees last year.
Shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic doesn't necessarily do anything to avoid the iceberg. Granderson can be in LF or RF and Chris Young can be in LF or RF. The only one that matters to me is that Lagares stays in CF and Eric Young stays on the bench. Once we insert Eric Young into the starting lineup then we've thrown in the towel on the season.
Regarding catcher, I agree that d'Arnaud SHOULD BE better than John Buck but until he proves it, you only have the major league numbers to use as a guideline. TdA wouldn't be the first player to hit the wall when he moved from AAA to the majors but he could just as easily morph into a Ted Simmons type of bat. We'd all love for that to happen. However, thus far he's made Omar Quintanilla look like a productive slugger by comparison.
I think its unfair to use his small sample size of MLB experience as a basis to determine whether or not he is going to be an improvement on 2013.
I have a feeling they will shuffle lagares, EY and CY to get them all some at bats. CY might get the benefit if the doubt for the first month and a half, but if he doesn't produce they will definitely be rotating those 3 in and out.
Steve:
I'm told I go back and forth on this...
I like what Sandy is doing with the team... long range... but I'm really not high on 2014... yet
The Harvey loss has to be figured in here and it's a big loss...
We also just have too many players that still need to step up (d'Arnaud, Lagares, Davis, Tejada, C. Young, Grandy) to the plate and turn out decent numbers.
Lasly, all acquisitions cancel out loses... Colon cancels out Harvey... and Grandy and Young cancel out Buck and Byrd...
Right now, on paper, I still see this as a <80 win team.
Zozo -
One thing I can tell you about TC...
He loves to keep changing the lineup.
And he's loyal to veteran players to a fault...but if a young player has a great day then you can expect him to be benched the next day for reasons on TC understands.
Reese-
I know it is a nice analogy, but I couldn't disagree with you more in your description of the Mets projected outfield as the Titanic, heading for an iceberg. C Young and Granderson are both above average fielders and should excel in the corners. And we know what to expect at the plate from them, so if Young improves slightly over his 2012-13 numbers and gives us .250, 20, 70 and Grandy just does what he did either in Detroit or the Bronx, we'll be just fine.
Regarding your position by position comparisons, it is not quite fair to match an as yet incomplete team with all of last year, when they had all that time to fiddle and add or bring up players to replace poor performers and upgrade at various positions. At the very least, you should compare what is likely to be 2014's opening day roster to last year's opening day roster, because there is no doubt that the FO will add, subtract, make trades and bring up prospects during 2014 to make this year's team better too. With that in mind:
LF - Chris Young will be far better than Lucas Duda was last year, and his back-up (EYJ) will be no worse than last year's second option. (EYJ) - 2014
CF - A full year of Lagares will be far better than Collin Cowgill for part of the season. - 2014
RF - Marlon Byrd's performance was totally unexpected and far above his career numbers. While I don't expect to get 40+ dingers from Curtis Granderson, I do expect him to put up numbers similar to what we got from Byrd last year. (Not that it matters, but I would bet that Grandy outperforms Byrd this year, despite the fact that Byrd will be in Philly's band box.) - Push
C- I strongly believe that d"Arnaud and Recker will outperform last year's Buck.Recker combo. - 2014
Bull Pen - Last year we went into the season with Parnell, Edgin, Rice, Hawkins, Burke, Atchison & Lyons. Almost everything I've heard indicates that Parnell will be ready by spring training, so the first 3 on that list should return. The last 4 will be replaced by Torres, Black, Germen, and one of Familia, Ried, Carreno or Walters. If that is not a superior pen to last year's I'll eat my hat. - 2014.
So, where you have 4, 3 & 3, I get 5 push and 5 2014. And considering we played .500 ball for the last 3/4 of 2013, I am encouraged about the prospects for 2014.
Reese and Herb -
All I can do is offer an 'IMO' thought on each of these categories.
No one is right or wrong here... it's just opinions at this point of the off-season.
I'll say this... it is hard not to predict that 2014 will be better when there were so many positions that were under-played/under-hit there.
My lynchpins are Parnell, Colon, and d'Arnaud. If they produce, the team will thrive.
Mack -
Of course, you're right. These are all conjectures.
Who would have thought, in a million years, that Marlon Byrd would produce as he did, looking at his career stats and the 2012 that he had come off. Or that Ike Davis would fizzle after the comeback he made in the 2nd half of 2012 and the great spring he had.
My lynchpins (to use your tag) would be Chris Young, d'Arnaud, Wheeler and Lagares. Solid production from those 4 will govern whether we can come close to contention.
I think we can expect to get good performance from Colon, Niese and Gee. The bull pen is stocked with young, power arms. The middle of the lineup (Murphy, Wright and Granderson) is strong. And shortstop, either Tejada, Drew or someone we get in trade, will have to be much better than last year. One other thing I might add to the "lynchpins" is production from the first base spot, whether it is Ike or the Duda/Satin platoon.
The point of any of these posts is to generate thoughts from the readers and towards that end I suppose this one is more successful than some others I've written in the past.
Agreed, there are a lot of unknowns. However, there are a few on which we agree. Should d'Arnaud, C. Young and Lagares have positive years, then this team (treading water in most other positions) will be improved. Personally, I think the real key to 2014 is finding a full time role for Wilmer Flores. For a team that struggles to score runs, it seems foolish to play inferior bats ahead of his when they produce defense like Lucas Duda does.
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