Is it premature to offer up an apology of sorts to Sandy
Alderson?
At the risk of falling into the small sample size trap, the
game is about attitude and work ethic as much as it is natural talent. Both former first round picks – Gavin
Cecchini and Brandon Nimmo – had been written off as failures by many pundits. Both have had limited trials in the big
leagues, Nimmo due to injuries and an overcrowded outfield and Cecchini due to
the inexplicable desire to give more ABs last year to Jose Reyes and Asdrubal
Cabrera when it was clear they were long out of contention.
In Nimmo’s case, some of the success of people selected
AFTER him have put him (and Alderson) after the Mets decided to take the Wyoming
product who didn’t even play high school ball their number one makes for a
pretty valid condemnation. Take a look
at the All-Stars who could have been had – Jose Fernandez, Sonny Gray, Jackie
Bradley, Jr., and Joe Panik. He did
manage to pass on Sean Gilmartin in the draft, so there is that.
Nimmo’s road to the majors was a bit slow as he did not have
a lot of time in organized ball.
Consequently his first few years were not all that awe-inspiring for a
number one pick (and the first of the Sandy Alderson era). Though the first three years with stops at
various affiliates his averages ranged from .111 to .278. The most encouraging thing was that he was
trending upward, so it appeared me might be something of a late bloomer.
In fact, in 2014 he had a 227 AB stint in A+ at Port St.
Lucie where he hit .322, encouraging enough that he was moved up to AA. There was some regression as his numbers
there were less than stellar. He dropped
down to a mere .238 and the whispers began a bit more loudly about Alderson’s
prized pick.
Given his draft pedigree, he was going to be moved steadily
up the system and eventually he hit the offensive paradise/pitching Hell of Las
Vegas. In 2016 it all came together for
him when he hit .352 with 11 HRs and 61RBIs over just shy of 400 ABs. His .423 OBP is what really caught people’s
attention and many felt he’d finally come of age.
During 2016 and 2017 Nimmo spent a lot of time on the DL and
shuttled back and forth between the minors and the majors. While he’s held his own with the bat at the
big league level with a .264 average over 250 combined ABs, he never got an
extended look to see if he could push it to the next level.
With the injury to Michael Conforto opening up the
centerfield position for a month or so, it was incumbent upon Nimmo to put it
into overdrive to convince the new manager who doesn’t automatically treat
younger players with disdain that he belongs in the lineup. Thus far this spring they have to be tickled
pink with his .340+ AVG with a little bit of power and the ongoing high OBP
number. To most folks it seems as if the
Mets have solved both their CF and leadoff dilemma in one.
Gavin Cecchini suffers some of the draft pick comparisons
when Sandy Alderson used the 12th pick overall to pick the Louisiana
high school standout shortstop. Behind
him available for the taking were World Series Champion reliever Lance
McCullers, Jr., the Dodgers’ Corey Seager and the Cardinals Michael Wacha. Other solid ballplayers include the Cardinals’
Stephen Piscotty, the Mariners’ Mitch Haniger and the Rangers enigmatic slugger
Joey Gallo.
Cecchini’s rise up the ladder was also not the thing of
legends. Over his first three years he
hit a combined .249 with only about 6 HRs per season and not much in the way of
RBI production either. He showed no real speed either.
However, like Nimmo, in his fourth year in the minors it
started clicking for him and over the next two years he hit a much more
impressive .321. There was still little
power and little speed, but there’s usually room in the majors for people who
make consistent contact. His OBP was not
quite at Nimmo’s level but it was impressive enough to take notice.
Unfortunately, Cecchini regressed big time in 2017 in his
return to Las Vegas. Part of it might
have been some pouting about not getting the chance to move up and part of it
might have been complacency given the success of the past two seasons. He hit a ho-hum .267 with just 6 HRs and 39
RBIs in over 450 ABs. His 77 AB major
league trial last year was a forgettable .208.
Many wrote him off entirely and had no expectations going into Spring
training 2018.
By most accounts he came in both bulked up and with a new
attitude. Thus far in the Spring
whatever he’s done is working for him as he’s hitting a robust .350 with 2 of
his 7 hits clearing the wall. All of the
sudden he’s in the conversation about possibly being a backup infielder going
north (particularly when Jose Reyes is only hitting .174). The chances of Reyes being pushed aside for
Cecchini are nil, but perhaps he could be positioned as the 5th
outfielder for a month, clearing a roster spot for Cecchini in the
infield.
14 comments:
Good morning Reese -
Both Nimmo and Cecchini have given me new faith in the claim that people with ++ talent can rise above their initial lack of success
Sure, I give Sandy some more credit here, but I give most of it to the two players that have worked hard to rise out of the swamp.
Hi Reese
Psychic is right...especially in Nimmo's case. Could he actually turn out to be...REALLY GOOD? I sure hope so.
Cecchin hitting regressed, but his D last year surged...maybe we get the 2016 hitting to go with the 2017 hitting this year. He us 24 all year...it is time to emerge.
With Tebow farmed out, how the Mets have to figure out who the neck will hit clean up.
Does he still have some bounce back, or will he be like those American Idol contestants who you really, really want to like...until they start to sing? That is one of the side stories of 2018.
Mets are 5-13.
Tom -
Did you ask if Tebow had some 'bounce back'?
What is he bouncing back from? Did I miss the good stats before the bad stats?
Mack, in 2017, he went 3 for 4 once :)
Reese, there’s quite a few angles to cover here. First, Nimmo’s lack of history made Alderson’s pick more or less a flyer on a top athlete and track star. I would have preferred to see him in the second or third round, but I like the kid.
Second, I like Cecchini, but not that much. The problem with that pick is that Wacha and Seagar were known commodities that Alderson ran away from for signing purposes.
Alderson’s continuous issues have always been financially motivated. Not sure if this is all on the Coupons, or if Alderson’s ego of building a franchise on the Oakland A’s budget, just to show he can. Then, like an idiot, he doesn’t give them a chance because he loves a bargain so much, he can’t stop bringing in retreads! He wants sure things!
Whoa Whoa who hacked Reese'e computer...
I am not willing to give Sandy a Pass... at the picks we selected both the expectation should be draft a future all star or assets to acquire a future star...
Pretty sure neither can be a centerpiece to acquire Machado...
Nope for me passing on Seagar or Jose Fernandez doesn't get you the pass... Best player available... there were several as you can see in your article...
Gus -
A little history on the Nimmo pick.
I was an active member of the Mets minor league press at the time and had considerable confidential sources on Mets activities.
SANDY ALDERSON DID NOT PICK BRANDON NIMMO IN THAT DRAFT.
He turned the draft over to a man named Chad McDonald, who was the Mets Scouting Director that year. McDonald pulled all the strings in that draft.
Jim Reeves was the actual scout that went to Wyoming and found Brandon. He also was the one that signed him.
McDonald left the Mets after this draft and joined Arizona as VP of Scouting.
Mack, thank you for the info. However, Alderson should have at least been abreast of what type of player his team was drafting, and if you don’t even pay attention to your #1 pick, what are you pay attention to? If a young first time GM did this, we’d say he is unprepared for his job. So, how much more should we say for a person that had successfully been a GM before. It’s actually more damning to hear this. Sorry: F from me.
It is possible to see a lineup at some point this year that includes Nimmo, Cheech, Plawecki, Smith, Rosario, Conforto and Cespedes. That would be his first four 1st Rd picks, his first big IFA and two supplemental 1st rounders in Plawecki and Cespedes via Fulmer. Considering none of the picks were lower than 10th (which is a big difference from top 5) I would say he has had some pretty good outcomes thus far
BTW losing a 1st round Pick for Cuddyer was another colossal "F"...
Sandy has barely couple of hopeful players in his player development list ... Rosario Gimenez Marurico (which is international signing which i think is a big deal) plus D.Peterson (because I am just about ready to throw in Dunn in the Cecchini / Nimmo list)...
Well, in the "bashing Sandy" spirit, I'll NEVER understand the Neil Walker deal last year. Again, the motivation was financial -- hoping to get a compensatory pick when he was signed elsewhere. That backfired big time. I also resoundingly condemned the Wright deal, but I think that was more on the Wilpons than on Alderson. When you had no money to spend on anything, putting all your eggs into one basket made little sense. He should have been traded in his prime when healthy for a boatload of low cost prospects. Water under the bridge...
I am cautiously optimistic that both Brandon and Gavin will be at least bench/role players for 2018, if not above average contributors in CF and 2B.
This brings up a good question regarding draft picks.
When do you evaluate them? Post-pick, three years, end of career, etc?
Mike -
Me?
College picks - 3 full seasons after draft
High schoolers - 5 yrs
Interesting.......gives me an idea.
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