"You have to have a catcher because if you don't you're likely to have a lot of passed balls." -- Casey Stengel
While the humor of this statement is certainly valid, there is some truth to the sentiment that sometimes folks undervalue the extent to which a good catcher can impact the competitiveness of a team.
Now the Mets over the years have had some very fine catchers including Jerry Grote (world class defensively), Todd Hundley (more of a hitter than a catcher once he mastered the PED formula), Gary Carter, Mike Piazza and a handful of others.
Unfortunately, they have also endured a bevy of guys who could catch but not throw, throw but not hit, hit but not help the pitchers behind the dish, and some who were not really excessively good in any of these areas. That long laundry list of men wearing the tools of ignorance included the likes of Charlie O'Brien, Alex Trevino, Josh Thole, Anthony Recker and a score of others.
After the horrific 2020 season handled poorly by Mets receivers, the club went out in its post-d'Arnaud era to fortify the receiving behind the dish. While many were clamoring for the Mets to somehow obtain Realmuto, they went in an entirely different direction to ink free agent James McCann.
Now when this story broke, many were quick to write him off as a lightweight hitter but highly competent catcher. The money spent was a bit stiff for a guy who had been a semi-regular for most of his career but way less than an All Star caliber receiver would have netted.
When you look at his career numbers, he seemed to be trending upwards. His last full season of 2019 he hit a respectable .273 while clubbing 18 home runs and driving in 60. To give these numbers even more value was the fact that he was a stellar pitch framer and also quite good at nailing would-be base stealers. His WAR for that season was a very nice 3.6 which would be valued at nearly $30 million in pay. His actual salary was a much more modest $2.5 million. He earned an All Star berth for those efforts.
During the strike shortened 2020 season it's a little hard to read player production and value given the 60-game limit to the full schedule. His batting average was up to .289 but over roughly a half-season's worth of production he hit 7 home runs and drove in a mere 15. Multiply those numbers by 5 to get a more realistic view of a regular 162 game season and 35 HRs with 75 RBIs is a big improvement.
Consequently the Mets probably felt that his offense was most definitely improving while the defense continued to be top rate. Their 4-year $40+ million contract seemed a shrewd buy if he could keep up the offensive production. However, 2021 was not like the previous two seasons. He finished hitting just .232 (a problem that plagued nearly every Mets player this past year), with just 10 HRs and 46 RBIs. His WAR was a highly improbable -0.2.
So many folks are dismissing the McCann contract as another in a long line of front office failures, the fact is that the man deserves another look with a new hitting coach at a relatively modest $8+ million for the 2022 season. The hot hitting Francisco Alvarez is still at least two years away, so they are likely to sit tight with McCann who did help improve the pitching which was the primary reason he was brought on board. When Alvarez takes over, McCann can slot into the backup role currently held by balsa-wood hitting Tomas Nido.
Going into this off season the Mets have a plethora of problems to solve. There are outfield questions, second base questions, third base questions, starting pitching questions, reliever questions and front office questions. Oh yeah, they need a manager and a full slate of coaches (except Jeremy Hefner), too. I think focusing on the catcher as a top priority given the relative success of Travis d'Arnaud for the World Champion Atlanta Braves is short sighted and shouldn't be the top priority for the Mets. I can live with James McCann for round two.
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Alvarez will be here by opening day 2023. My guess is some need arises and he could be here by August 2022. Stay healthy, Francisco.
I posted a ditty on FB about d’Arnaud. His Mets fan haters are many…and irrational. And defended McCann…I had to remind them McCann had one great month and 5 bad ones.
Our readers are much smarter.
The McCann/Nido tandum was a tremendous defensive upgrade over 2020's Ramos/Chirinos.
Alvarez struggles with balls in dirt and has a ways to go. One Brooklyn game I was at - two runners from third scored on pass balls. Mets priority has to be to get him a catching coach to help his defense. Alvarez will be a hitter but we don't need another Gary Sanchez.
Morning guys,
You know the only real problem with McCann is his salary. For the life of me I have no idea why we panicked and grossly overpaid. I would have loved to see what the competition would have paid. If we had paid him like $5 mil per for 3 years we wouldn't be having this conversation. Which is probably what he's worth. At that salary we would be saying he's good defensively whatever we get from the offense is gravy.
As for Alverez, I actually hope they don't rush him. I'm thinking he takes over full time in 2024, with McCann as his backup.
Joe P McCann is the same problem as Lindor: What were they thinking? Is it really that we're so desperate that we sign guys because we're surprised their even interested in coming here? The whole mindset must change or that line about doing the same things over and over and expecting different results applies. Ok guys is Alvarez a catcher or a DH?
By the way why no Duffy Dyer mention?
Also did anyone else see the BNNY when they pretty much dissed Maurcio as a iffy prospect no love there and I was wondering why? Maybe their setting us up to soften the blow when we trade him.
Duffy Dyer is one of the great baseball names. Too bad the on-the-field ability wasn't nearly at that same superlative echelon. There were lots of curious folks stationed behind the plate for the Mets. Eventual El Paso Chihuahuas manager Rod Barajas played there. So did J.C. Martin. Ronn Reynolds. The list goes on and on.
We've had a lot of catching clunkers, Reese. Forget Johnny Bench - half of them didn't belong on OUR bench.
I make my aggressive case for Alvarez's early arrival in Queens on several points:
1) John, if you saw his defensive deficiencies, he saw them, too - he knows that will hold him back, and I assume he will work his derriere off this winter to fix it 100%.
2) Strong arm, and he has quickness.
3) His hitting results were tamped down by playing in Brooklyn. Everywhere else, he hit around or over .300.
4) Elite hitters climb fast. Sosa, Acuna...I feel Alvarez is very possibly in that same offensive class.
5) RBI machine.
6) Catchers wear out physically - see d'Arnaud, see Bench, see Piazza, see Carter - why waste any unnecessary games in the minors?
7) I read one site's assessment of him, and they already had him at # 4 overall and thought he would soon be MLB prospect numero uno.
I think 100 more minor league games and he is ready to go.
Joe P, good point - a big reason the 1990s Yanks were great is they had years of cheap labor in Rivera, Jeter, Williams Pettite, and Posada and could spend elsewhere. If you go to the free agent market, you tend to overpay, as I agree with you that they did with McCann. We have several very good prospects - will they equal the Yanks' fab five? Unlikely. But I am hoping they are close, and keeping them can help avoid overpaying for every big name free agent just as they are closing in on their likely years of decline.
Gary, on Mauricio, Keith Law also gave a lukewarm write up. He says that he saw him live on consecutive nights and his defense was spotty. Further, he isn’t a speed guy. He has a strong arm and shows good baseball acumen. I understand that the Mets don’t want to move him off shortstop because at any other position the value decreases, but I’d see him standing in the middle of the baseball field on the grass and at third base too.
Gus, I wonder what Law said about Ronny's projected power? He looks like power will be big to me.
Ok, so the Japanese outfielder Suzuki that is a five tool, best player the last three years is being posted. Would you think he needs to be wearing blue and orange more than any other free agent hitter? I do.
Reese today on the Mets' catcher position.
I used to feel the same way as you, "I can live with what we have here now." It's somewhat true I think, but when you add in a level 1 or 2 offensive catcher who fields his position to a high level as well, then everyone will "get it".
It does make a big difference. It gives you one more (of the 8 batters) who opposing team's pitchers have to worry about because he is not an automatic out 75% of his at bats.
True, it isn't the largest concern on this 2022 Mets team, but say you brought Francisco Alvarez into Mets 2022 ST and he looked awesome. Would that peak your interest Reese?
Cannot hurt to at least see.
Something about Francisco's scouting reports, tells me that he is not your typical MiLB catcher and it would not at all surprise me if he does very well in '22 ST if invited.
Just a hunch.
NY Mets 2022 team.
It has got to be re-invented to some extent, re-tooled. It won't be easy and at first it may upset some Mets fans and beat writers. But there would be good to head in this direction at this time I feel.
I want to see as many of the organization's top younger MiLB players given a shot in 2022 ST to win starting jobs. Namely, 3B, RF, and yes catcher. Call me whatever.
John:
Good post above.
But could Francisco Alvarez's passed ball issue have been better addressed this off season, is my only question. Why wasn't that done? Mike Piazza maybe as a tutor?
Great points all,
I actually agree with everyone here. I too am very exited to see this young core develop here. What I would do right now is just not panic and make crazy moves. I think what we should do ( I can't believe I'm saying this) is follow the plan the KNICKS are using....yeah I said the Knicks.
Overpay for solid players for 2 years (Guys like Marte, etc.) so we remain competitive. Stock up on pitching because you always need pitching. Hopefully, McNeil, Smith, Davis will contribute. And in 2024, these guys will gone or traded and we can make room for our young core.
Please don't repeat the Lindor mistake (possibly might go down as the worst signing in MLB History). If we sign guys like Baez, Bryant, Trevor Story, Correa, we will hamper our team for years to come.
I can't believe I am going to say this....but really think about it. (Please don't kill me) but I think Cano (yes Cano) is a better hitter than any of them and in 2024 he's finally gone.
Hopefully, when the dust settles in 2024 we have a good young core, a solid pitching staff, the minor leagues are stocked....we finally have a POBO and General Manager and we are headed in the right direction.
That's just my 2 cents...have a great weekend everyone.
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