Have you ever gone to a high school or college or military
reunion expecting everyone to be the same as they were in your memory, only to
be surprised by how different they are now?
Sometimes those differences are positive – better shape, more confidence
or successful career – but more often it is disappointing to see how they are
not as they once were and probably won’t be again. Why then should it be any different in the
world of sports where an athlete tends to have a short professional life that
often deteriorates rapidly with age.
Consequently it’s a little puzzling to hear all of the “let’s get the
old gang back together again” sentiments floating around this hot stove season.
Jay Bruce – Arguably the best offensive option of the
reunion candidates, it’s interesting that GM Sandy Alderson could not find a
taker for him at $13 million for a single season. Granted, he was coming off a miserable first
showing in New York, but he was near the top of the league in RBIs when he was
dealt away for A-ball reliever Ryder Ryan, owner of a 4.07 ERA and a rather
mediocre WHIP of 1.397. When the
off-season began people were envisioning something like 5 years/$100 million
but now his market is once again cratering as people are not as willing to
offer more than 3 years (while Bruce has dropped the demand from 5 to 4) and
the dollars are probably going to be not much more than he earned in 2017. It could work and wouldn’t break the bank (of
a professional run organization), but he’s still a streaky hitter with at best
adequate defense.
Bartolo Colon – In a word, “No!” Yes, he’s something of a folk hero in Mets
lore for his physique, his fielding prowess, his smile and his first-ever home
run. However, he flamed out twice last
year and at his age it’s likely he may have hit the end of the road. A minor league deal with an invitation to
spring training is the best I’d offer, but even then I’d rather see extra
innings logged by guys like Rafael Montero who is out of options than given up
to someone who can’t accept the reality of his ability slipping away.
R.A. Dickey – People have more rational fondness for Dickey
than they do for Colon as he actually won a Cy Young award for the Mets after
Omar Minaya (remember him?) salvaged him off the scrap heap when had reinvented
himself as a full time knuckleballer.
Unlike Colon, the 40-something Dickey managed to perform like a 5th
starter last year and would be a good candidate for a minor league dela with an
invitation to spring training. Since he’s
a knuckleballer whose success is not as dependent on velocity, I’d be more in
favor of this move than one on Colon, but again shouldn’t they be looking to
prepare for the future rather than trying to tread water one season at a time?
Lucas Duda – The big guy never took to the outfield but
turned himself into a passable first baseman.
However, they already traded him away to make room for Dom Smith so
there doesn’t seem to be any reason to bring him back no matter how low his
price drops. He can’t platoon as he is
left handed and his health has been an issue for the past few years as
well.
Curtis Granderson – Another fan favorite more for his
professionalism, smile and articulate thoughts on the game than for what he did
on the field, he’s also in that R.A. Dickey category of year-to-year stagnation
rather than looking for people who could help in the future.
Carlos Gomez – The once and almost future Met has had an up
and down past few years during which he was paid rather handsomely. Last year he was paid $11.5 million for 368
ABs during which he did club 17 HRs and drive in 51 while hitting .255 with 13
SBs. He alarmingly struck out 127
times. He’s been written off a few times
already but at just 32 he probably has something in the tank. The question is what he expects to get paid
for subpar results (based upon his earlier career). Still, he’s represent an offensive upgrade
over Juan Lagares but moving the Gold Glover’s salary to bring on Gomez is
going to represent a deficit, not a gain in the budget.
Oliver Perez -- Before you start laughing (or retching) he's carved out a second career for himself as a LOOGY often misused against righties where he doesn't fare nearly as well. Starting in 2013 he was able to harness his wildness somewhat. Given that his fan appreciation rivals that of other pariahs like Doug Sisk and Mel Rojas, I can't see this reunion happening.
Jose Reyes – He’s a polarizing figure due to his
happy-go-lucky attitude in the face of losing, his horrific start to last year
and his deteriorating skills. His
supporters will point to his strong finish, his baserunning speed (since they
have so little) and the fact that the club needs backup infielders with T.J.
Rivera on the shelf and the injury history of Asdrubal Cabrera. My gut says it’s time to move on and give
Wilmer Flores a full time shot at 2B, but I think I’m prejudiced by the former
Skipper who played him for three months of sub-Mendoza play while Flores rotted
on the bench. If used properly at this
stage of his career as a substitute at several positions he wouldn’t be a bad
pickup only if he’s willing to be priced like a bench player.
Addison Reed – Here’s a guy I have no reservations whatsoever
bringing back to the fold but given his great success during his Mets years
(and despite his less than dazzling stay in Boston) he’s going to be priced
over the $9.2 million expected to be paid to A.J. Ramos. If we’re to believe that the Mets have just
$10 million left to spend, let that pipe dream die.
Neil Walker – After having taken $17.2 million for an
abbreviated 2017 and an injury marred 2016, Walker did acquit himself
well when he was able to stay on the field. However, he’s going to want to be
paid north of the entire remaining payroll budget. Again, I’d rather see the much less expensive
Wilmer Flores finally get a full time shot from day one.
My feeling is that 2018 with its payroll constraints is not likely going to be a very competitive year. Consequently they should do this coming season what should have been done last year – find out what the younger (and less expensive) players can do. Then you know what you need for 2019 when theoretically you will be ready to contend with the big boys. Trying to recapture the past is a wistful dream. If you want to delve into the past, go get Daniel Murphy or Justin Turner or Michael Fulmer, not these expensive players in the twilight of their careers.
One dark horse reunion name never mentioned in the rumors who might be a good candidate is ironman Carlos Torres who had two terrific seasons in New York followed by one mediocre one after which he was let go. He followed that up with one great season for the Brewers, then one mediocre one. He would give you the innings of a Bryan Shaw at a $2.175 million price tag last year. He's not as interesting as Matt Albers or Peter Moylan, but he should probably get a call to sound out what he's looking at in his age 35 season.
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Maybe it is just my imagination, but we always seem to be writing about the players that the Mets should NOT sign.
Obviously Sandy reads the site and has not signed... anyone.
Reyes and Bruce (3 years)...then stretch the budget and add Reed. That team could succeed. With Conforto likely to miss time and Brandy gone, there is room for Bruce. OF gets too crowded during the season, or in 2019, trade one.
Do a Jeter
1B - Smith
2B - Flores in 2018; Guillorme in 2019
SS - Rosario
3B - Cabrera in 2018
LF - Conforto
CF - Lagares/Nimmo in 2018
RF - Cespedes
C - de/Arnaud/Plawecki in 2018
SP - deGrom, Syndergard, Matz
Harvey in 2018, Wheeler in 2018
RP - Familia in 2018, Ramos in 2018, Blevens in 2018
Swazak, Smoker - rest TBD
Concentrate on international signings and draft
Strengthen affiliates
Target 2020
Agreed Reese......we are not a veteran/role player away from contention, so adding any of the folks on your list amounts to spinning your wheels, or blocking your younger players who may be a part of your future.
If we add anyone, it should be a player that you see as part of the future (preferably at a spot that is open, like 2B or 3B). I still like Brian Dozier (trade) or Mike Moustakas (FA).
Reese,
Agreed on your entire list. Wow.
No thanks on Moose.
(don't mind me...I was just having some fun this morning)
Reese, while I agree with you on Flores and most of the players you mention, I can’t help but feel that one very good outfielder can make this team go places. I never was a Bruce fan, but have to admit he did well for the Mets. The player I would target is Granderson in a two year deal. Granny was pretty good except for the beginning and end of the year. Collins overusing him when he was ice cold is not Granny’s fault. But, Granderson is athletic enough to pickup first base, can stand in centerfield in a pinch, will be able to play a few days a week and still know how to stay sharp, and is a plus to any clubhouse.
I would sign Reed and trade Ramos.
I was listening to the mark carig interview and he mentioned Brian Shaw. Brian shaw once he had multiple similar offers wanted a team that does spring training in Arizona. Apparently that was important to him.
Sometime we forget what goes into free agency decisions. Some players dont want to be in a big city or on the east coast or train in florida or in a place where there are 25 beat reporters or for some state income tax.
I am secretly hoping granderson retires and joins the coaching staff or front office.
Half way from season's close to opening day.
It takes a special kind of breed to be Mets fans because this team finds so many ways to disappoint you on a yearly basis. But none of it is bigger than their lack of vision.
I guarantee you there will be good players, desirable players, who for whatever reason, wont get the kind of offers they expected and therefore be available to cheap teams like the Mets.
But the Mets will look the other way because on a year that they should be signing players in order to trade them at the All Star if they are not competitive, they choose to close their wallets.
Even worse, they will bring in marginal players from another organization to take time away from the players they should be taking a long look at. If the Mets are not going to bring in the good players they need, I would at least like to see a full year Lagares, Flores, Smith, Matz, Wheeler. Lets at least find out what we have before the 2019 season when they will again, find a way to disappoint us.
Reese, interesting approach. My take, for what it is worth:
Bruce- welcome back. mlbtraderumors pegged him for 3 yrs/$39 mil, Jon Heyman said 3/$36. The market for offensive players seems to be softening, so I would try to get him for 3/$32, backloaded (like Swarzak, which may be Alderson's modus operandi this winter)
Bart- thanks, but no thanks. I think he has finally had it.
Dickey- interesting proposition. He went 190 innings of decent ball last year. If unable to sign a better option (Cashner or Vargas) I would bring Robert Allen back.
Lucas- no.
Curtis- you gotta love the guy, but no. no room at the inn.
Gomez- no. unless as a last resort if unable to sign better.
Ollie- PLEASE, it hurts when I laugh.
Jose- sure. Cheap backup IF. Good in the clubhouse, mentor to Rosario and other young latin players. Maybe starting 2B if unable to do better.
Reed- If I can trade Ramos, I'd be on the phone with Reed's agent.
Walker- I'd rather not, although he is quality. I'd first try for a trade or to sign Frazier.
That's my 2 cents worth. If I signed a starter, even Dickey, I'd move Wheeler to the pen to start the season. I'd love it if Alderson would engineer a trade or two that would eliminate the need for some of these reunions.
Herb on Fire!
MnL deal for Bart? Nothing to lose, and he could be a good mentor for the young Latino pitchers, such as Montero and Robles.
Reyes--- ditto (substitute Rosario for the pitchers)
RA? Double Ditto, with our own novice knuckler in the minors.
Bruce? Helped us a lot last year, but 3 years/$30 mil for backup OFer without good Defense? Not this time.
Bill-
Bruce a backup? No way, unless you have a CFer up your sleeve. Trade for Cutch? Yellich? I don't think we have the chips.
I want 4to/Yo in the corners and Lag/Nimmo between them.
If 4to shows he is fully recovered, and the CF combo does not work, then I will look for another corner guy.
If the doubters jere are right about the "only $12 mil left in the budget, I want it spent on 2B or 3B.
I like new ideas. Sometimes I feel that the NYM never reach their potential because they do basically the same player personnel/team building strategies year after year. Just the names change of the new veterans coming in.
Instead, I might like to see ideas more outside the proverbial box. What about acquiring a really decent powered, young Harrison Bader on the STL Cardinals for NYM outfield. He is young but already has some serious power game.
Christian Yelich staying in Miami I am reading today. But what about JT Realmuto, solid game and still mid-twenties only and within salary range near $535,000 per season.
Right there above, something maybe like this, the NYM add two very affordable solid younger players to add to their nucleus. To players who can field and hit, even with power game.
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