On Saturday when I wrote about the prospect of trading away Edwin Diaz once he rights his ship, Mack made a very interesting comment. Without specifically identifying players who aren’t getting things done, he did ask a candid and relevant question. Why has Carlos Mendoza flown under the radar when looking for why things have gone so wrong in 2024.
Think about that one for a moment. Buck Showalter who is likely headed to Cooperstown for his managerial record started off with 101 wins in 2022. Then when he lost Diaz for all of 2023 and a variety of other players nosedived he went from the solution to the alleged problem with why the team was not performing better than near basement dwellers.
Now to be fair, the plans to bring in David Stearns as the new President of Baseball Operations opened up that awkward door as you would think the POBO wouldn’t want to be saddled with an inherited manager but would certainly prefer to hire his own. No one knew at the time that Billy Eppler was also headed out the door as a result of the IL manipulation and fraud, but that change was not even addressed as Stearns took over the GM duties as well as serving as the new man in charge of baseball.
So with a great many experienced managerial candidate available, Stearns went in another direction and instead negotiated for rookie manager Carlos Mendoza to take the skipper’s job. People knew his name from his long tenure as a Yankee coach and also from the many interviews he had done in pursuit of the big job for himself. Some Mets fans were a bit miffed seeing a Yankee in their dugout, but they got over that feeling for Luis Severino, so it didn’t seem to be a major issue overall.
No, the bigger question for the Mets organization is whether they wanted to grow and shape a young manager much like the way Milwaukee did with Craig Counsell. There is risk in doing that but the reward is low cost loyalty for several years. Even though Mendoza had done some winter league managing he had not taken over for even a solid 2 days in a row in the major leagues. Consequently did it mean he could morph into Luis Rojas II?
Thus far it seems that Mendoza has done an acceptable job for the day-to-day details such as filling out lineups, rotating players and not getting ejected on a regular basis. Yes, there are definitely questions about habitual early hooks on starting pitchers and overuse of the bullpen, but otherwise he seems to be at least average.
Where the bigger issues jump out at you are the inconsistent and subpar performances from nearly every hitter and most pitchers on the club. Motivation is a key facet of any managerial job and baseball is no different. It has many folks scratching their heads when they brought back Eric Chavez to help coach hitters and returned Jeremy Hefner to mentor the pitchers. It seems highly unlikely that these formerly successful deputies both lost it in the same season.
So what is Mendoza doing to address the attitudes and execution of his players? When they recently had a meeting with the players it was pointed out that meetings don’t seem to be a major part of the Mendoza style. Perhaps that type of communication with all players in the same room at the same time being treated equally is something he needs to consider.
Given the fact he is the POBO’s new hire, he probably has a much longer leash than any other rookie manager would receive. David Stearns has been pretty good about admitting through the transaction roster when decisions he made were not working, but players and managers are two very different types of hires that require contrasting approaches. Players are there for however long their contract is (or less) and you have a track record of what they have done in the past as well as what they are doing right now.
Rookie managers, however, have no track record and learning on the job is part of the playbook you accept when you attempt to craft that kind of inexpensive long term solution. I’m sure if you go back through Craig Counsell’s early days as a manager you would find examples of highly questionable things he did, but he learned from them and quickly became one of the most desired managers when he resigned from the Brewers.
So now you have to consider the horrific stretch the Mets are facing right now and you have to wonder how much rope David Stearns is offering to his manager? What is he as POBO doing to motivate one of his lieutenants? How long does he give the on-the-job learning process before accountability overtakes pride in the hire? Would bringing in a new manager actually change things drastically? It seems that the problem is in player execution more so than managerial flaws, but at this point all potential problems need to be considered.
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Thanks Reese for the shout out
No one should be safe from being partially responsible for this mess, especially the guy who puts the players on the field each day.
(a reminder... don't wish a Vet HAPPY Memorial day... or take 3 steps back before you do)
My gripe with Buck was his failure to demand his pitchers retaliate to protect his hitters. He didn't tear Diaz's patella tendon. We stopped by my wife's cousin's house yesterday - he watches all the games - and he reminded me his biggest WBC fear was Diaz might get hurt. Look at how that has reverberated through this franchise. It 1) kept them out of the playoffs in 2023, 2) caused management to start to detonate the team and 3) has carried over into this year, as Edwin went from immortal to mortal. That alone will make any manager look bad.
Edwin has blown 4 saves already. He has thrown the bullpen into chaos, although the loss of the "two" on the bullpen's one-two punch of the REAL Diaz and Brook Raley has made that chaos even worse.
So, I have not studied this manager enough. But...Is he responsible for $210,000 per game Lindor inexcusably failing, for example? Someone who should need no inspiration to excel, or be willing to give a partial refund without being asked. Or what about "ace" Kodai Senga being locked away in a Maserati auto repair shop as the endeavor to fix his expensive mechanics continues?
I will leave the manager study to others. May most of the players get traded and flourish elsewhere, where they can blend in and hide behind winners. What'type of player is a winner? Look in the Bronx.
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I don't allow for non baseball stuff on here but I am going to make an acception today because of what I remember as Decoration Day
I am a Viet Nam vet that currently suffers from 4 recognized deseases/ailments with the Agent Orange on my base in 1967-68.
2 are cancer. One is presumptive
My wife has done exhausting work on this and to date we have traveled to 11 NP's assigned by the VA to ask me more questions than Cohen got this month in that trial
The first was easy. 2 questions no exam and 20% disabled. Since then pulling teeth and stalling on decisions
Now I wake up this glorious memorial day to find out that the Biden Administration has begun to shut down outsourcing of doctors, a practice created by Trump
ALL my doctors ... dentist, oncologist, urologist, therapist... are outsourced because a trip to the VA hospital would take us 200 miles. I have to have my blood monitored 4x a year due to non-hodgkins lymphoma
This is my monday
I'm proud to be an American but happy I am not living there right now.
Sorry to step on your post today Reese
I'll back off now
Oh. Forgot to tell you. But those people streaming across our border get free Healthcare
Mack,
Thank you for your service. I was drafted in 1972 and left basic training as the war ended. You have my respect for your service to our country.
No problem, Mack. We all have histories that impact our need to communicate.
I too served during the Vietnam era and am 50% disabled. Thank God for community care which allows me to access doctors here in New Bern.
Sorry to hear that story, Mack. You and countless others have needlessly suffered (many killed) in a war we should never have been in to begin with.
I wish you only the very best going forward.
Mack, I too thank you for your sacrifice for our greater good. It feels small to bother commenting on the Mets after reading that and totally understanding and agreeing with you on it ALL!
But, so you don’t feel like you hijacked the article, I will just say a few words.
1. Showalter didn’t give a crap last year. His comments about sitting Baty against lefties for the good of the league tells you that.
2. As Tom said, he wouldn’t let his players stick up for themselves, and left them spineless all year.
3. He lost Diaz, but still had a great year from Robertson. There wasn’t any fall-off. The back of the bullpen would still suck even if Diaz was around. It would suck less.
4. The hitting sucked last year, and that isn’t on Diaz. The hitting sucks this year too, but it’s down throughout baseball. Look at the Braves offensive numbers and that Marcel Ozuna alone is carrying them.
5. Mendoza has made quite a few mistakes, and while Cohen said that he didn’t want anyone learning on his dime, Mendoza had the most upside. I think he is a smart man and smart always is the way to go.
6. I think this team can be better than it’s parts and the top prospects haven’t stepped up so far this year, but since this year was to be a transition year, I would trade the players that can bring something good back, and let the rest still fight it out. No AAAA types that hurt morale. Youngsters and players under contract for next year would be my roster.
Thank you also Ray!
Mack…horrible. Thanks to you, and Ray, for your service.
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