7/12/14

Morning Report – July 12th – Bullpen Maintenance, Outfield Projection


                                                                                                                                            
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I’ve been meaning to write about bullpen maintenance, in general, and the Mets, in particular, for some time. I wanted to wait until the Mets pen were putting out some good numbers, so I can’t see it ever getting better than right now.

The Mets currently are operating with a seven man pen. Some teams have been known to push it to eight or limit it to six, but seven seems to be the average number for the league.

Currently, the Mets do not have a reliever with an ERA above four. I don’t have the time or desire to research this, but my guess is you would be hard pressed to find many teams that could say that.

Being a relief pitcher gets you seven opportunities to make the 25-man squad. Try to imagine the luxury a team would have with seven shortstops (I know Reese, TC would still call it wrong…).

We are all guilty sometimes wishing out loud (another name for a ‘comment’), or even writing about, the desire of some minor league relief pitcher to become part of the Queens roster, but, for right now, things seem to be properly in place. Career minor leaguers (Buddy Carlyle and Dana Eveland) are doing a stellar job on the mound, replacing others that haven’t.

(let me take a moment about Germen Gonzalez here… I give him all the credit in the world, but Las Vegas is exactly the place he should be pitching right now. His numbers this season were sub-par (4.78) and his timing on bad outings cost the team games… Eveland and Carlyle have stepped up and should be part of this year’s pen, regardless of their age)

There are very few times professional baseball team approach the draft ready to pounce on a reliever in the early rounds. International players are signed at 16-years old, so there really is no history on them pitching in this role either. I always grew up in an era that we defined a relief pitcher as a failed starter, but that just isn’t true anymore.

Take the case of Jack Leathersich. He leads all of baseball in K/9, but he can’t even gain enough respect to be ranked more than the 16th best prospect in the Mets system.

And what exactly are you going to do with him? We know the Mets can’t field all their top starters at the same time. What’s going to happen to guys like Darin Gorski, Tyler Pill, Gabriel Ynoa, and Cory Mazzoni?

Short range… you know my man-love for Rafael Montero to become a back-end reliever for the Mets. I can’t think of a better time for the Mets to ‘experiment’ with this idea that the remainder of 2014.

Long range… look for speed ballers… I like the Cardinals approach. Give me 4/5 guys that can throw 96+ for 15 pitches each. Akeel Morris, Domingo Tapia, and Jose Medina could be targets that way.



The signing of Michael Conforto has created a new projection for the Mets outfield for the remainder of this decade. Let’s talk 2015 and beyond.

Curtis Granderson is under contract through 2017 and will be used as a starter for his entire contract. I have him primarily slotted in at RF, but we all know he is fully capable of playing CF as well.

Juan Lagares is pre-arbitration, and has proven himself to be an adequate CFer until someone better comes around.

Eric Campbell has proven this year that the least he is capable of doing is being a positive force as a platooned 1Bman, or RFer, and, in addition, adequate to produce a competitive batting average.

Kirk Nieuwenhuis, after numerous attempts, is falling into place to become one of 2015’s utility OFers.

Brandon Nimmo will most probably open 2015 in Las Vegas and be held back until June to allow for his to gain an extra year of arbitration eligibility. Look for him to be the starting Mets LFer on 7-1-15.

The assumption is that Michael Conforto will play both St. Lucie and Binghamton in 2015, start the 2016 season in Las Vegas, and could be ready to take over right field in Citifield as early as July 2016. This would move Granderson to center.

Cesar Puello is playing better lately in Las Vegas, but he’s far from the ‘sure bet’ prospect we wrote about a year ago. My bet is he will return to AAA in 2015 as a 24-year old and has a long way to go to earn back a tier one prospect status.

There may be future major league roles for players like Matt den Dekker, Cory Vaughn, Kyle Johnson, Dustin Lawley, Travis Taijeron, and Darrell Cecciliani, but, for various reasons (age, injuries, blocked, lack of results, etc.) there may not have a future as a NY Met outfielder.

Lastly, there are second tier prospects (Jared King, Champ Stuart, Wuilmer Beccera, Ivan Wilson, Ricardo Cespedes) that haven’t played enough to be evaluated.


Observation:  The future Mets outfield hasn’t looked this bright in years, but everything would still be better if they could trade for, or sign, one more established star to roam CitiField next year. 

9 comments:

Michi L. said...

Lets see what the trade of Colon is brining. Yankees should have interest and maybe Judge would be a target. This would change the OF scenario once more.

Anonymous said...

Interesting post but just a few observations. First, the jury is still out on Lagares being a full time answer in center field. How long are the Mets going to wait until he blossoms into a 15 homerun and 85 rbi hitter? I'm not sure the Mets can keep him starting if he only provides 5 homeruns a year. That said I hope he has strong second half and continues to add muscle in the off season. Granderson has to play left field. He just doesn't have the arm for right field. Puello only player in system that has a gun for an arm that projects as right fielder. I was hoping that Cuddyer would be available for Mets to sign this off season but looks like Colorado is going to try to resign before he hits free agency. Nieuwenhuis is getting more and more playing time and I could see a scenario where he wins left field in second half of season. Conforto has been and will probably always be a left fielder not a right fielder. Improved dramatically in left field and while he may not grade out well on defensive metrics will play solid defense with a few spectacular plays from time to time. Captain Kirk locking down left field or right field if Mets switch him and Granderson is probably the only short term solution which would provide the best defensive outfield. Just have a hunch that Puello is going to put it together and if he does than he will be All Star. Tools have always been there. Lagares too good of a hitter in the minors not to solidify his position in center and Captain Kirk may be the surprise of the season. Soup is great bat off the bench or possibly a solid platoon with Kirk. I suspect Mets will release Chris Young over All Star break.

Unknown said...

I would prefer Lagares in center when Nimo and Conforti come up, try and trade Granderson. Grandy will have 1 year left on contract, so if he plays up to par it shouldn't be to hard to trade him. Pay some $$$ towards his contract.
I have a man crush on Lagares besides his stellar defense I believe he is a pretty clutch hitter. We all agree that Murphy hits in he Citifield dimensions really well, I believe Lagares does as well. He doesn't have to be a home run hitter with us, but I would like to see him steal some more bases.

Tom Brennan said...

Nimmo is not flawless - he still needs to show mote power and watch his K's. Sombrero last night.

Lagares will be an All Star in a year or two, IMO. Didn't he badly break his ankle trying to steal in minors? That may be why he does not try much.

Mets are in an abundance stage now in pen. Leathersich has pitched very well since some early season issues and in other years, he'd already be in the Queens pen. In my opinion, he is a top 8 prospect right now in minors. Montero should be ready real soon, after his oblique, and Thor and Matz both were great the last start or two - so lots to choose from.

Kirk keeps his K's down and he will be a viable piece on this team.

Unknown said...

I thought bullpen maintenance was going to discuss usage and rest - Collins' decision to use Familia last night with a six run lead is the type of decision that should get him fired.

One of the top relievers is fatigued mid-season and is used in an unnecessary spot.

Collins' decision to mix and match and use several reliever in a blow out is indefensible - he is going to burn good young pitcher s out

Steve from Norfolk said...

Mack,

Isn't Conforto supposed to have a weak arm? I thought that's why he projected as a LF.

I remember a discussion we had around a month ago about who would end up in CF, Lagares or Nimmo. You thought a combination of factors, including politics, would come together to put Nimmo there. Still feel that way?

Mack Ade said...

Steve -

Yes, I have Conforto wrong in this piece. He should be in LF and Grandy should be in right

Mack Ade said...

Anonymous -

Re: Lagares - you say the 'jury is still out'. I said he will play there 'until someone better comes along'

same same

Mack Ade said...

Thomas -

Lagares was never particularly fast both on the bases and as a shortstop.