8/5/14

Morning Report – August 5th – 2014 Projection, Prospect Ranking, Mail Box



2014 Projection -

The Mets loss yesterday to the Giants was a particular blow to my belief that the 2014 Mets had any chance of making the playoffs this year. This 4-5 home stand had to be in the 7-2 range for anything positive to develop and, frankly, there are just too many teams playing better baseball than the Mets this year.

I was particularly upset at the ’triple’ in the 7th inning. This never would have happened if Chris Young kept his distance and let Juan Lagares play this ball from the proper angle. I’m not sure there would even have been a hit here. Yes, it looked like Lagares would have had to leave his feet and risk injury, but that is what he does out there.

No, I’ve let my fandom get the best of me again, creating these ‘wild card’ charts that simply aren’t realistic. Therefore, we’ll start away from all that work that simply proves that the Mets have gone nowhere in the past three weeks.


Also, I wrote earlier this week that I didn't expect many (or any) roster moves for the remaining  one month left in the minor league season. Then, of course, LHRP Jack Leathersich gets promoted to AAA-Las Vegas.

In addition, the Mets DFA OF Bobby Abreu and call back up LHH-OF Kirk Nieuwenuis

I wouldn't be surprised if all of these represent the beginning of this team adjusting their rosters for the future of 2015 rather than hanging on to the current, somewhat hopeless attempt to make the playoffs.

I hate when I see players like John Gant and Robert Gsellman held back for a playoff at the A-level when they should be pitching in St. Luice and moving towards the majors. Does anyone other than the officials of the Sally League and the owners of the Sand Gnats really care about all this?

I'll write about the minor league portion of this more tomorrow, but let's hope that we see more roster progress out  of the Mets. 






Prospect Ranking –

            I wanted to go back here and spend a little more time on what we do here at Mack’s Mets, especially prospect ranking.

Guys like Stephen Guilbert, Thomas Brennan, Christopher Soto, and I are all at a disadvantage to the so-called experts out there that either attend every game at some level or have someone working for them that does. I had the pleasure of attending many Savannah games over the years and sitting next to scouts that did this kind of stuff for a living, but those days are over for me. Now, even I am left with just an opinion.

Prospect ranking isn’t as easy as placing the first round pick over the second. And, hitting .310 in the rookie league means nothing compared to doing the same thing in Binghamton.

I’ve said many times that a good percentage of what takes place at the GCL level, or in Kingsport or Brooklyn, is developmental. This is where pitchers are being taught to throw more than one + pitch, or where batters are having their swing mechanics changed to create a better result from their efforts. Nothing I just said translates on a stat sheet; in fact, it usually produces just the opposite at first.

I saw firsthand the initial development of Juan Lagares into a successful outfielder, regardless of what his batting average was. We recently watched scouts tag both P Marcos Molina and IF Amed Rosario as prospect material well early of anything they produced on paper. As John Lennon used to say, ‘it takes words and music to make a hit’ and very few have enough of a package to make it all the way.

I have reported on the Savannah Sand Gnats since 2007 and there have been only two hitters that weren’t intimidated by Grayson Stadium. One was someone named Brahiam Maldonado who hit ten home runs there in 2007… and the other was Aderlin Rodriguez, who hit 17 there in 2011. Neither one will ever sit next to Tom Glavine during the HOF ceremony. They did something good, but not enough to become great.

Chris, Stephen, Tom, and I all have our own slant on this process. Stephen and Chris seem influenced at what they have seen previously at Coney Island. Tom uses current stats verses others at the same level to influence his lists, and I chose to reach out and listen to what others in the industry tell me they believe.

Don’t take this too serious folks. We’re just having fun here and telling you what we think and, as always, you are welcome to chime in. What you’re not welcome to do is get personal with any of the writers. That just earns you a quick deletion.

Mail Box –

            Michael Scannell

Re Brandon Nimmo… FYI, over his last ten games he's hitting .316/.435/.500. Looks like he's adjusting to AA finally.

Mack – Yeah, it takes most of these guys a little while to adjust to the increased quality of competition at each level, especially AA. Also, most of the young ones get off to a slow start.

The first thing that happens to these guys is they start off hitting in the bottom of the lineup instead of at the top like they were where they came from. Nimmo has adjusted well.

I don’t expect any movement to Las Vegas for him this season, but I do think there is a good chance he gets called up to Queens when the rosters expand. The Mets should be out of the pennant race by then and it will be a good time to show off some of the kids.


Robert Smiley - to me

Mack, What else does Matt Reynolds need to show to be considered for the Mets shortstop of the future? With a couple of innings left in Sunday nights game he has 4 more hits including a home run.

Mack – Well, I think guys like you and Tom Brennan are starting to wear me down here on Reynolds. I will tell you this if and when he gets a shot before the end of the year… don’t expect him to be better in the field than either Tejada or Flores.

Now, regarding his hitting and the conversion to hitting a baseball in the normal humid air of the NL East, I’d definitely say at this point that he deserves to be one of the additional players called up at the end of the minor league system when the Queens roster expands.

Until then, we’re still trying to get Flores time here, who out hit Reynolds.


Minor Notes –

Phillip Humber pitched one inning for AAA-Sacramento on Sunday night… 3-ER, 4.11-ER

17 comments:

Tom Brennan said...

To piggyback on what Mack said about minors prospect writings, it really is all about fun. It is very hard to project guys, especially in the lower rungs, like an Ivan Wilson who the Mets thought enough of to draft high in the 3rd round last year and has had a particularly brutal struggle with strikeouts ever since. I like to see guys produce, whether they are considered elite or not. That's where the Jake deGrom surprises pop up...and that's what makes it fun to follow.

Guys like Reynolds surge - it's cool to watch that happen, wondering what he might become. One guy I've been ready to write off a number of times is Dekker...too old, missed his opportunities, strikes out too much...then in a large amount of plate appearances since sent down (180), goes a mind-boggling .395/.475/.650 and cuts his strikeout rate in half from 2 years ago. Already has the gold glove, so you start to wonder if this guy might not just make it, but be a GOOD major leaguer. Fun to follow, even if you can't be at the games like you'd wish to.

The Closer said...

As far as prospect rankings and Matt Reynolds, anyone listing Mets prospects HAS to list him in the top 25 right now. I'm not saying top 10 by any means, but give this guy a little bit of love already, what more does he need to do at this point? He was just named offensive player of the week last week for PCL and if he gets enough AB's, not likely) he would probably beat out MDD for the batting title at this pace.

Matt Reynolds, Las Vegas
(.533/.588/.767, 7 G, 16-for-30, 2 2B, 1 3B, 1 HR, 6 RBI, 6 R, 3 BB, 7 K, 1 SB, 1 CS, 1 HBP)
There were a lot of question marks surrounding Reynolds entering the 2014 season. The 2012 second-rounder batted just .226 with a .639 OPS in his first full season at Class A Advanced St. Lucie in 2013, and he needed to show an improved bat if he wanted to climb the ladder in the Mets system. Then, the 23-year-old shortstop hit .355 with a .430 OBP in his first 58 games at Double-A Binghamton, prompting a June promotion to Las Vegas. Last week, he showed just how much his bat has improved when he collected six multi-hit games, including a 4-for-5 showing with a homer, a double and three RBIs on Sunday. His slash line with the 51s is now up to .340/.399/.487, and it's likely he'll get a call to the Majors during September roster expansion. Not bad for a guy who told Newsday he didn't expect to reach the PCL this season.
Reynolds hits two-run homer.
-from MiLB.com

Bill Metsiac said...

Mack--- you wrote yesterday that you don't expect the Mets AAA team to be in the PCL next year. Where do you think they will be? Are there any IL cities that appear to be available?

Bill Metsiac said...

Mack--- you wrote yesterday that you don't expect the Mets AAA team to be in the PCL next year. Where do you think they will be? Are there any IL cities that appear to be available?

Anonymous said...

@Bill

I went into detail about the status of available AAA teams a few weeks ago.....I will re-pull my info and post it here for you.

Anonymous said...

Here are the AAA Affiliates that have yet to sign Player Development contracts for beyond 2014.

PCL League
Albuquerque Isotopes - Los Angeles - [New Mexico]
Colorado Springs Sky Sox - Colorado - [Colorado]
El Paso Chihuahuas - San Diego - [Texas]
Fresno Grizzlies - San Francisco - [California]
Las Vegas 51s - New York (NL) - [Nevada]
Nashville Sounds - Milwaukee - [Tennessee]
Oklahoma RedHawks - Houston - [Oklahoma]
Sacramento River Cats - Oakland - [California]
Tacoma Rainiers - Seattle - [Washington]

International League
Durham Bulls - Tampa Bay - [North Carolina]
Norfolk Tides - Baltimore - [Virginia]
Pawtucket Red Sox - Boston - [Massasschusetts]
Rochester Red Wings - Minnesota - [New York]

Based on the list above we can safely assume that the following teams will re-up with their affliates due to the proximity to their parent clubs.

Colorado, Fresno, Sacramento, Tacoma, and Pawtucket.

It would make a ton of sense for San Diego to sign with the Vegas squad and for the Houston Astros to sign with El Paso since they are only in Oklahoma because the Rangers (specifically Nolan Ryan) booted them out of Round Rock.

Albuquerque has a strong relationship with the Dodgers, Durham with Tampa Bay, and Nashville with Milwaukee so no changes are expected there.

This leaves you with 3 teams (Mets, Orioles, and Twins,) vying for 3 locations (Oklahoma, Rochester, and Norfolk)

The Norfolk squad is owned by a Maryland organization so their ties to the Baltimore team are quite heavy......in addition last time the Mets were in Norfolk, they booted them out because of countless losing seasons and lack of top class minor leaguers being assigned there. In addition Ken Young is the President of the Tides, Bowie BaySox, AND Frederick Keys....All of which are Baltimore affliates.

Norfolk seems like a sure bet to re-sign with Baltimore.

That brings us to the fight for Rochester......The Red Wings had previously not been happy with the Minnesota Twins due to 90+ losing seasons in 2010 and 2011. However the team was able to scratch out a .500 record in 2012, and win a wild card spot in 2013.

In terms of proximity, Minnesota is a 2 hour flight from Rochester......however Oklahoma IS ALSO a 2 hr flight from Minnesota so signing a contract there would not be detrimental to the MLB club. Both facilities are relatively new (Rochester Stadium built in '96, Oklahoma in '98) so there's really no wrong way for Minnesota to go.

If the Mets are going to make a AAA move......It has to be Rochester, stay with Vegas, or end up with Oklahoma.

Steve from Norfolk said...

Nice info, Chris.
I'd like to add one thing about Ken Young and his triad of teams. He's not only the President of those teams, he's the sole owner.Plus, his main business is stadium concessions. You'll never get the Orioles out of Norfolk unless he sells the Tides.

bgreg98180 said...

Yet another example of the ownership & front office ineptitude.
Alderson wants to refer to accountability.
What stable sports organization has a nomadic top tier prospect level team? Heck, they've basically been asked to leave from Buffalo & Norfolk if I remember correctly. Any other organizations in any sports have this happen? Not just counting successful organizations.
what will this be now? Four cities in five years (possibly going to be five cities in six years) for the Mets AAA team?

Anonymous said...

@Bob

It actually happens a fair amount of times.

Also being booted out of Norfolk and Buffalo was not a Sandy Alderson issue.

bgreg98180 said...

Chris
that's my point.
Norfolk & Buffalo make it worse.
Kicked out is worse than choosing on your own

Tom Brennan said...

Chris

Any chance of Mets AAA affiliate splitting the Binghamton location? Seems like scheduling could become very hairy if they did so, and maybe MLB precludes that option. Also, field would never get a rest for maintenance.
But it is closer to Citi.

Anonymous said...

@Tom

No this is not possible....

We have to remember that these are separate organizations that we do not own. We do not have control over where they are, who owns them, and what their financial plans are.

The number of AAA organizations is a fixed amount. The only way to move a team would be for the Mets to purchase one themselves (much like Brooklyn) and re-locate them.

At this point in time the only AAA affliate that is for sale is.....well....Vegas.

As I said above signing a Player Development Contract with Rochester is the club's only option or else they will probably get stuck in Oklahoma.

Anonymous said...

@Bob

I don't see your point....

You inferred that teams don't regularly get booted out when in reality it happens quite often when MLB organizations prospect depth weakens or ownership changes.

It happened to Houston in 2012 with Round Rock. Nolan Ryan purchased a minor stake in the club which led to them booting out Houston in favor of Texas.

As for the multi city issue.....

For the Mets The Norfolk situation was a combination of 2 things. A) the Mets farm system weakened drastically after the promotions of Wright and Reyas. B) Relations were strained between the Tides and Mets when Bernazzard and Minaya neglected to make even 1 trip down to Norfolk to meet with management. and C)The remaining stake of the Norfolk team was sold to Ken Young in 2005. Young already had severely strong PDC ties with the Baltimore Orioles and his #1 goal was the boot the Mets out and sign with the Orioles when the contract expired in 2006.

Since contracts run 2 yrs at a time at a minimum, and the decision to boot the Mets was so late in the year, the club ended up getting "stuck" in New Orleans till 2008. The Nationals were also in on Norfolk and but realized they weren't going to win so they settled on Columbus. In 2008, the Nationals left Columbus, The Indians then left Buffalo to get closer to home in Columbus which opened up the Buffalo organization.

Seeing this opportunity the Mets and Blue Jays both want Buffalo but New York was quicker to react and won the PDC which screwed Toronto over and they got stuck in Vegas. The Bisons had a terrible 2009 but had an encouraging 2010 season which led them to renew with the Mets and screw the Blue Jays again. But then poor seasons in 2011 and 2012 were the last straws for Buffalo and they booted the Mets out for the Blue Jays. In that off-season every other minor league affliate re-upped their PDC's so the mets got stuck in Vegas.

So again.....its very common that teams get booted out. Usually its not due to a case of poor management or strained relations.....these teams (like all professional teams) just want to win! And during the late 2000's the Mets just couldn't produce winning AAA teams due to years of poor drafting and lack of minor league depth.

bgreg98180 said...

Chris
How many of those examples are/were successful organizations at those times?

Mack Ade said...

my 2 cents about Buffalo

The owners of the Bisons had a relationship with the Mets similar to that Hamas guy that is all over CNN this week talking about the Jews mixing Christian blood to make their matzos.

Reese Kaplan said...

The Padres will want to stay in El Paso as the franchise has been wildly successful in its inaugural season, way beyond all expectations. Now the owners of the stadium might use it for leverage if they think another team's AAA roster will somehow make them even more money.

Anonymous said...

@Reese.

yea now that I'm looking....el paso/tuscon has been a SanDiego affliate since 2001.....they aren't moving.