Casey Wentworth - dare we mention this...Logic and Common Sense


  First off, back to an earlier article on Mack's Mets by Tom Brennan

His commentary regarding the trade of Gabriel Ynoa was basically that he did not think that this 23 year old starter would ever pan out to be anything more than proverbial flash in the pan MIke Pelfrey. Two things here. Mike was a setup man and not a starting pitcher in my opinion. I do not understand why they did not at least try him there seriously. Mike's stuff to me, was strictly set-up and not in long enough consistent duration to start. It seemed most obvious at the time. Now  Ynoa, he is 23 years old at current. When called up to the Mets in 2016, he actually increased his ratio of strikeouts to innings, albeit in over only an 18 innings period of time. Gabriel did have seventeen strikeouts here with the Mets in 2016, which was far better a ratio than he had compiled down in the MiLB. My point on Ynoa is simply this, he is young, raw, and untested here in the majors. I liked what I saw of him in his brief stint here last season with these NY Mets. His mechanics were smooth, his leg stride long, and his arm angle and his fastball impressive. I just do not feel that at this time anyone currently on this planet earth can definitively forecast  Ynoa out from this early on point of his entry into the major leagues. He is a work-in-progress and I wish him the very best wherever he goes. I would have hung onto him, absolutely. Sold someone else.

Secondly, the bench of five for 2017...

    Some quick "Casey style" analysis here, if you don't mind. What does Wilmer Flores have that T.J. Rivera does not, besides being a little bit younger than T.J.? Two players whom to me have had every single opportunity to prove themselves out here are infielder Flores and outfielder Juan Lagares. How many opportunities do they get here with the NY Mets to showcase their talent? I like both players, Wilmer sometimes reminds me of a big league starter and Juan, well,  he is Endy Chavez reincarnate to me. However, I sometimes think that it might just be wiser now (at this juncture) to give other people their shot at this too, namely all purpose outfielder Brandon Nimmo, four infield position Rivera, and pinch hitter power man Travis Taijeron, whom I call "The Sleeper." So with that all said, my five man bench would be: on the infield Rivera, who may just turn out to be another Daniel Murphy at the plate. This would not surprise me because what I saw of T.J. here in 2016 had Murph written all over it. T.J. already has the eye coordination and pitch discrimination needed, the batting mechanics as well. For the outfield bench role, simple, Curtis Granderson. Curtis is not really an ideal leadoff man and seldom hits for the kind of a batting average that a team would want leading off. But Curtis's true value now (at this point of his own career) is that he can play all three outfield positions well, and he can make things happen at the plate with his power stroke still being intact. So right there, you have two bench players (Rivera and Granderson) who have every single field position covered between them, except at catcher. My third and fourth utility players would be catcher Rene Rivera (as we await either Kevin Plawecki or Tomas Nido to come into their respective own) and pinch hitter Taijeron, "The Sleeper." Travis could also play some corner outfield if the case need be, and maybe if allowed also, play some backup first base or even third base.

So, you are probably wondering by now, who would my fifth utility player suggestion be? Simple, it is David Wright.  I'd put the Captain on the slow train back to himself  beginning Opening Day 2017. He'd also be my First Base Coach, or something similar to that in role responsibility, if he was not physically ready to be a utility player. I would keep David around for certain.

So what becomes of NY Mets Flores and Lagares? Probably trade them both. Try to send each one to a team where they will have a real opportunity to start. Then hopefully get back from this trade some MiLB A and AA level prospects to help restock our own MiLB system here with the Mets.

One last point here...

I understand by things Manager Terry Collins had said last season,  "Having a homerun hitting team is optimal for offense" and then too, "We do not run." However, I might  strongly suggest to Manager Collins that by getting the top two batters on base first, this might even be better way of scoring runs than having an eight player battery of only homerun hitters.  After all, this is precisely how the MLB game has been played since its very inception. This is why I have suggeste3d now for some time into the starting eight field players a combination of this fact and younger players that bring youth and zeal into this lineup.


1B Duda 2B Walker SS Cecchini 3B Cabrera LF Cespedes CF Nimmo RF Bruce C Trade Acquisition using Travis, Juan, and Wilmer as trade-bait

Bench: INF T.J. Rivera, OF Granderson, C R. Rivera, PH Taijeron, Captain D. Wright.


Thomas Brennan said...

Casey, so far, Ynoa has gone 4 innings with just 1 run. You may be right, but it's really early. He has, though, just fanned 1 so far. Logan Verrett has also gone 4 innings, one run for O's. my guess? Both will struggle.

Taijeron will only be on this team if (heaven forbid) Cespedes and and Lagares collide and both go on the DL, leaving a righty OF hitter void. I could see him as a part time OF vs. lefties on a bad team, which the Mets are not. May Taijeron prove me wrong.

I will leave other thoughts on your article to others, other than to say that Cecchini's days as a frequent SS may be over, given his well above normal error rate there the past 2 years.

Mack Ade said...

Regarding Pelfrey... and I was there when pitching coaches discussed this... all the success Pelfrey had when he pitched was based on the late action on his pitches.

The problem was his action didn't pann out in most of his outings.

Pitchers will be the first one to tell you they have good outings and bad ones.

Pelfrey had too many bad ones.

Anonymous said...

Are you forgetting Conforto?

Eddie Corona said...

On Pelfrey ... this was one of those "We need to scout our own team better than other"
He should have been trade right after that 15 win season. I am a horrible scout but I told everyone at the bar that we had to trade this guy... He stink (said that more explicitly) and this was when everyone was thinking we uncovered a Aces...
My super untrained eye saw this... How could we not act.. Yes always trade someone too soon over too late...

Thomas Brennan said...

Eddie, my brother Steve said (exclaimed) exactly the same thing at the time Pelfrey had his one great midseason record, for the same reason - he thought his success was an aberration. He was 100% right, front office was wrong. You were so right, too.

I never liked him, myself.

I remember watching a late spring training game Pelf pitched toward the end of his Mets' stint, I think against the Cards - man, was he getting SLAMMED. One line drive after another. And thought "what is he doing here?" as my brother kept saying, I SAID to get rid of him!

Hobie said...

You know I've been a TJ fan for some time. Is he Murphy? Zobrist? Somewhere in there maybe. I root for him.

I'm not sure I agree if Legares & Flores have gotten a thorough shot. The manage to disable themselves at the wrong times, of course, which clouds the situation a little. I think Wilmer would surprise as a regular 3B however unlikely as the urge to get Jose PT takes priotity I guess.

Me? I give Legares & Granderson a 50-50 split until a home is found for the latter and a 50-50 split with Nimmo thereafter. Likewise a pasture for Duda and/or Bruce for Conforto to become a regular. Wright, if he can play at all (and I'm not sure if that status will ever arise again) should be the RH platoon for whomever is at 1B (Duda, Conforto, D.Smith). Having him active if he can't play (bat and field) makes no sense.

Taijeron's power is so mitegated by everything else--he cannot field a lick--he would be a distant second choice over Ty Kelly if it came down to that. I think some see him as an Adam Dunn light; he's Throneberry Light.

Thomas Brennan said...

Marv Throneberry? Oh baby!

Reese Kaplan said...

Hell hath officially frozen over because I'm about to praise Terry Collins. Last year he identified that Wilmer Flores is lethal against left handed pitching. His stat line is undeniable -- In 100 ABs last year he hit .340 with 11 HRs and 28 RBIs, a .710 SLG and a 1.093 OPS. That's a home run ever 9 ABs!

Now will he do as well against righties? Probably not, but we'll never know if he doesn't get the chance.

Anonymous said...

Where should I start? Lets see.

Trade the ONLY true CF on the Mets roster, that's a no. Who takes over? Granderson? he is gone after this year. Nimmo? he projects more as a corner outfielder. If everyone on this team is doing their jobs, it should be able to carry Lagares as the starting CF because it makes the team way better defensibly.One only needs to see how Granderson got burned with a ball going over his head the other day. That is a ball that Lagares would have caught.

Flores? first take a look at his numbers last year and in how many at bats it was accomplished. Then ask yourself truly if Walker who will become a free agent at the end of the year is 15M better than Flores. TJ, Cecchini? we don't know enough about them yet. The one thing I can say about Flores that's bad is his ability to get hurt when the job is given to him.

Taijeron? he had one good game where he went 4 for 4 and that elevates him over guys like Lagares? Really?

Rivera over d'Arnaud? Like it or not, right now there is no better choice for the Mets.

The Mets cannot afford to trade Lagares, Flores and d'Arnaud with no heir apparent when they will lose Duda, Walker, Granderson, Bruce, Cabrera (if option not picked up)

Just my 2 cents

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