Is David Peterson being treated like a yo yo? Or perhaps a pawn?
In the Mets' 1969 and 1986 World Series wins, the Amazin’ Champs used a total of 15 pitchers each year.
In 2021 and 2022, they used an average of 37 pitchers. Huh?
Great for some guys, no doubt.
You know, those borderline pitchers who end up getting a few innings in the big leagues that they would never have gotten the opportunity to get in 1969 and 1986.
Bad for others, no doubt.
Guys like David Peterson and Tylor Megill.
Up and down, up and down, up and down, pass the Dramamine, 'til the options run out.
It disturbs me to think that David Peterson and Tylor Megill might be considered by the Mets to start out in Syracuse to keep them "stretched out" to be able to start in games for the Mets if and when needed.
Why do that, when they (right now) are proven quality big league arms….does it disturb you, too? it disturbs me.
David Peterson over the past 3 years with the Mets is a solid 15-13, 4.26 ERA with 235 Ks in 222 IP.
Drop out Peterson’s bad 2021 and, in 2020 and 2022, he was 13-7, 3.70, with 166 Ks in 155 IP. If all of that was done in 2022, and Peterson was a free agent, fans would be clamoring for “Uncle Steve” to give him a big multi year deal, as a rotation pitcher.
He is clearly a major leaguer.
Stop treating him like a yo yo.
Is Tylor Megill being treated like a yo yo?
Tylor Megill over the past 2 seasons is 8-8, 4.73 ERA with 150 ks in 137 innings with the Mets. He was a dominating 4-1, 2.37 in six starts last year early on, including winning the Mets' season opener, and his career ERA is only that high because 1) he tired in his rookie season in 2021 after a huge innings jump, and 2) he was ineffective in the latter portion of 2022 after being hurt.
He is clearly a major leaguer.
Stop treating him like a yo yo.
Hitters, on the other hand, who get the yo yo treatment are almost always very marginal players. They're lucky many times that they get treated like yo yo's, since the alternative is to not get called up at all, because fewer hitters get called up than pitchers.
Peterson and Megill would be every-5th-day rotation arms for most MLB teams. Tell me that I’m wrong.
So, please - stop treating them like yo yo's. Like pawns.
Treat them like what they are.
Bona fide, ain't going anywhere, major leaguers.
Part of it is philosophical, too. The Astros, for example, used far fewer hitters and pitchers in 2022, for example. Not as fond of yo yo’s in Texas, I guess. You yo yo lovers out there, remember to walk the dog.
Of course, we’re the Mets to, let’s say, trade Cookie Carrasco for something valuable in return, that Peterson-Megill yo yo would be no mo’.
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I agree and disagree, Tom. They both strike me as good enough to be in the rotation of other teams, but our rotation is strong enough that, barring injury, they are not (yet) ready to push someone out.
The cliche that you "can never have too much pitching" has proven valid in today's game, and there are roles for #s 6 and 7. Trevor Williams will be missed, as he was capable of being effective in the pen and as part-time starter.
Maybe "Petergill" can fill that role,but is that where they are most useful for the current Mets?
Aside from the unproven Butto and an apparently-healthy Lucchesi, I don't see anyone upstate who may be capable of moving into the rotation when someone needs rest or double-headers come up, or (Gasp!) Is injured. And yo-yos are needed on contending teams.
Perhaps one of "Petergill" can be this year's Trevor,but it that more useful to the team than having them ready to start when needed?
Unfortunately for them, but better for the team, the 'Cuse rotation is probably the best place for them to start the season.
Peterson is ahead of Megill by a wide margin (and not just because he's left handed). Megill was not healthy for part of last year and upon his return was pretty awful. He doesn't exactly have star minor league stats either. I have no issue with him in the minors. Now whether to convert Peterson into the new Trevor Williams or to keep him in AAA is another matter entirely, but I am fully convinced that between the senior citizen pitchers in the rotation and the ones who have had issues staying on the mound that there will be plenty of opportunities for Peterson to get starts.
I'm sure they both would love to be full time starters, but neither has put together a long enough string of great outings to displace another SP. They are too good to park in the minors, so they play their role in the bullpen and work to improve. I don't think it is bad that they are earning their way into the rotation, and I think both will get there.
40, let’s play Over/Under. How many games will the starting 5 miss?
Gentlemen, my take on them is use them in the NY pen until you need them in the NY rotation. If needed for a fill in start, hopefully good for 4 innings. If more, stretch them out in Queens. We do have lots of pitchers but they are both in my top 12.
I tend to believe that the Mets have no confidence in these two pitchers as starters.
The main reason starters don't want to become relievers is the potential loss of salary.
I believe in both of them but who am I,
Under these conditions, I would start them 1-2 in Syracuse, knowing that injuries will create the need for fill-in starters
Mack, that may indeed nail what they are thinking, and they make the decisions.
But,how many starts does the rotation miss? Last year DeGrom missed 25 all by himself? Will Verlander and Max miss that many combined or will they miss that many each? Will Carrasco and Quintana hold up? Chances are good one breaks down or even worse is ineffective. Got to think at least one of McGill,Peterson makes 15-20 starts.
Woodrow, that is fine and I agree. My preferred solution is to keep Peterson and Megill in the Mets pen, pitching to MLB hitters.
In 1969, Cardwell and McAndrew combined to start 42 games, but relieved in about 16 more, and 3 relievers, including McGraw and Ryan, started 18 games. They weren’t sent up and down. Worked then, and it can work now with Peterson and Megill.
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