5/11/23

Tom Brennan: Old, Fragile, Weak Parts; No Pitching Depth in Mets Universe

Next pitching call up - better than Bundy


Let's keep it simple:

Old and Fragile:

Verlander misses a month.

Scherzer is battling an injury all season.

Carrasco is a crumbling cookie.

Quintana sustains an injury that a younger man may not have.

Canha hitting like garbage.

Escobar hitting like garbage.

Pham - except for a few games, has hit like garbage.

Weak:

Nido awful.

Luis G. is not nearly enough of a run producer.

Much of pen, once Edwin got seriously hurt and Raley and de Oca out, too, without real pen reinforcements.


By my count, that is 9 names, and probably 4 others in the pen that have dragged this team to lows unimaginable when the calendar was turning from January to February.

Awful lot of $$ tied up there.


NO PITCHING DEPTH IN THE MINORS:

Through Tuesday, the 4 farm teams were a combined 25 games below .500.  

Biggest four reasons follow:

Syracuse ERA: 5.37 

Binghamton ERA: 4.96

Brooklyn ERA: 4.26

St Lucie ERA: 4.94

 

And never let Bundy pitch on Sunday or Monday - or any other day.

15 comments:

Mack Ade said...

Forgot Nido's "phantom" dry eye issue. How do they know he has this if its phantom?

Last night... Lander 7 innings, Otto and the guy filling in for Edwin one each

Blade Tidwell should be shut down, sent to doctors then FL camp. My hote they don't have another front line bust here.

Raw said...

What happened to all the people that the Mets organization hired to help our minor league players develop? Am I being too inpatient or maybe we need better personnel doing the work with them, Tampa Bay seems like they have good people doing the work for them. Maybe we can hire some people from that organization. I think we also need better people to work with our position players, no exciting prospects except for Mauricio and Vientos. So far our round one draftees are not raking and not pitching well. Do you think Tidwell might be injured? Did much better in college.

Mack Ade said...

Raw

Regarding Blade, I do, or the least, this season is now in his head. A month away from the travel schedule could only help save a so far horrible season

Like Bundy, Brady Aiken, Mark Appel, this was once college's top pitcher.

Abner said...

Losing de Oca was bigger than most realized at the time. He was ready to step up.

Rds 900. said...

Got to wonder if our prospects are developing as well as their should. Early returns are not promising.

Tom Brennan said...

Uh oh on Tidwell

Tom Brennan said...

Abner, with you on Oca

Tom Brennan said...

Ray, minors are about a collective 25 games below .500. Not good.

Gary Seagren said...

Can't see SC standing pat on these issues and what more do Mark and Ronnie have to do to get called up? Also how about Lavender Blue as well always liked that song.

Mack Ade said...

As for pitching prospects drafted... they had plenty before trading many away

Viper said...

This what happens when you spend a lot of money on old pitchers and fail to build a solid team with enough support in the minor leagues. Does anyone think this is a 364 million plus team?. For that kind of money, we should have an elite team which we don't.

Best bet right now is bring up Vientos to take over DH and give him enough time to adjust and Mauricio to 2B with McNeil going to LF. Maybe they won't look so overmatch.

The Mets have successful teams to look at as a model to build the ML team and minor leagues but fail to learn time and time again. Braves, Dodgers. They build for the now and future. Mets overpay for the now while trading a lot of the future pieces they will need from the minors.

Anonymous said...

Pros and Cons of Mets Team Building

1. Premise One: What do we have player personnel wise already on the team that is talent trustworthy and good. The Mets did well last season, so this obviously should be the starting point to team building 2023.

2. Premise two: Where is the 2023 Mets team potentially the weakest. First look is at the Mets AAA and AA ranks for rebuilding these areas.

3. Premise Three: Do we have player talent level duplicates/triplicates that we can use in trades for players we need added at certain positions to strengthen our team overall. Like maybe here starting pitching non-AARP aged.

4. Premise Four: Does our current managerial and coaching staff fit well with this type of team composition with both their veterans and younger players.

Summary:

On Premise One, I think that Mets management sort of overestimated things a little bit judging solely upon the 2022 seasons outcome and results, and then just wanting to add key positional players they felt were needed most. This is entirely normal for any smart team to do actually.

On Premise Two, they inherited a weak AAA and AA system of pitchers from the prior season. There were no key starters there to add to the parent club yet. And in the field, they totally overlooked the four really talented positional players in Baty, Vientos, Mauricio, and Alvarez unfortunately.

On Premise Three: The 2023 Mets team does have (I think) too many veteran duplicates and triplicate types of players taking up room really on this roster, which should have been providing opportunity players like Brett Baty, Francisco Alavarez, Mark Vientos and Ronnie Mauricio. All who clearly deserve to be here helping this Mets team win games right now.

Premise Four: No. The emphasis with this team's offseason reconstruction was bringing in other team's veteran players with an "okay to alright" stat sheet of experiences. This only added to having too many duplicate and triplicate types of positional players here, rather than trying something else with their very impressive younger AAA players that could have possibly garnered a much better result than we are seeing right now.

Anonymous said...

The Pitching

I am liking the idea to workout more, both Nathan Lavender and Josh Walker (who is back now with a good game yesterday in relief as was Nathan's).

Two lefties. Two. Young ones. Too.

Two younger pitchers that would greatly benefit this team when ready for Citi Field. Lefties with promise.

My thought.

Both pitchers have relief experience in the minors. But I love to go rogue and contrarian actually in my opinions. So I say, do the NY Mets need to make these relief determinations this early on in their respective careers?

I say not.

Let each one themselves, decide this by how well they do. It may just be surprising to some, how well.

Tom Brennan said...

Viper, 100%.

Lou said...

If they had signed Correa things would have been different! He would have proved Pete.