While gloating about "winning trades" with the Pirates, note that The Pirates have made the playoffs during the past two years while the Mets have been "stuck in 70's".
It was no secret to the Pirates that Buck and Byrd would provide them less over time than Dilson Herrera.
The Trade Math ahead is not to "Win Trades" but to make some trades that help add Wins.
Ike will be lucky to hit 50 more homers over what remains of his career. His being DFA'd is not a vote of confidence. He had a terrible 1st half 2012, terrible 2013, and a pretty poor 2014. Can't blame Bucs.
no one is 'gloating', especially me, the host of this site.
All I pointed out was the FACT that the Mets had (so far) traded players that had no future on the Mets, for hopefully, future productive players, and they now seem to have no more productivity level on your 'playoff team"
I know you 'get around' in the blog world... try to have a little more respct for what I do here.
Mack--- I may have misrepped your comments. There is quite a bit of discussion about "winning trades"--it's vacuous and doesn't address the reality of those trades. I've obviously misunderstood your position--- that's never happened to me before....ok, may be twice!
Herrera for 2 months of Byrd and Buck?...fantastic!---it included Black too????
while the Mets may have won those trades. Black and Herrera are great. If im the pirates I still make that trade. getting to the playoffs after not being there for twenty years without giving up 1 of your top five prospects is a good return. 5 years from now it might not look it if herrera pans out but sometimes you have to make a trade that you know is bad long term to get in the playoffs.
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No love for Zach Thornton?
Forgot him...
see?
even more good news...
this kind of thing is common when a crappy team (mets) trades with a contending team (pirates)
I assume it might be awhile before the pirates ever take another phone call from sandy Alderson
Get ready to meet the newest 50-HR Yankee.
I feel bad for IkeThink what might have been if he hadn't gotten hi ankle stepped on. He WAS that 30+ HR player until then.
While gloating about "winning trades" with the Pirates, note that The Pirates have made the playoffs during the past two years while the Mets have been "stuck in 70's".
It was no secret to the Pirates that Buck and Byrd would provide them less over time than Dilson Herrera.
The Trade Math ahead is not to "Win Trades" but to make some trades that help add Wins.
Ike will be lucky to hit 50 more homers over what remains of his career. His being DFA'd is not a vote of confidence. He had a terrible 1st half 2012, terrible 2013, and a pretty poor 2014. Can't blame Bucs.
'enuff' -
no one is 'gloating', especially me, the host of this site.
All I pointed out was the FACT that the Mets had (so far) traded players that had no future on the Mets, for hopefully, future productive players, and they now seem to have no more productivity level on your 'playoff team"
I know you 'get around' in the blog world... try to have a little more respct for what I do here.
Mack--- I may have misrepped your comments. There is quite a bit of discussion about "winning trades"--it's vacuous and doesn't address the reality of those trades. I've obviously misunderstood your position--- that's never happened to me before....ok, may be twice!
Herrera for 2 months of Byrd and Buck?...fantastic!---it included Black too????
Eraff -
Cool.
Yeah, I had no position... just listed the facts
while the Mets may have won those trades. Black and Herrera are great. If im the pirates I still make that trade. getting to the playoffs after not being there for twenty years without giving up 1 of your top five prospects is a good return. 5 years from now it might not look it if herrera pans out but sometimes you have to make a trade that you know is bad long term to get in the playoffs.
Sometimes you just need to win games.
Ike - the only jersey I ever bought. The rest, I got T-shirts.
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