8/31/25

MACK - MY Sunday Observations - Jonah Tong, Jett Williams, Spin Efficiency, Elian Pena, Randy Guzman, Antonio Jiminez, Nolan McLean, Jim Marshall

 



Morning Thoughts 



Let me say this…

I wasn’t totally thrilled with the Friday Night Tong Show. Sure, the kid deserved a shot after his meteoric journey through the Mets affiliates this season. He pitched to a 1.59-ERA this season for AA-Binghamton and his last five games at AAA-Syracuse produced… wait… he only pitched in TWO GAMES at this level. This kind of Gooden-ish approach sort of set up a sink or swim scenario and, frankly, all it produced was a thread water situation.

In my opinion, there were far too many Whiffs, the fastballs either didn’t hit their mark or produce hitting the catcher mitt. So many balls. So many foul balls.

Let an associate of mine also explain this in a more analytical manner:

           Lance Brozdowski          lancebroz@substack.com

Mets Jonah Tong went 5 IP, 6 H, 4 R, ER, 6 K in his MLB debut. Tong was heavy fastball, slider, and curveball in this game, throwing just one slider. His four-seam ran a 36% whiff rate in the minors, exactly double that of the 18% average in MLB. In his debut, however, he generated just two whiffs on 59 four-seamers thrown. His location was pretty biased toward his glove side (away from righties). You can argue he was pulling the ball most of the night compared to his Triple-A locations, where he’s been more central to up. His changeup acted as his primary pitch to both left- and right-handed hitters Friday, which is a new development this season. He’s had an innate ability to zone the pitch in the minors and still draw an exceptional number of whiffs (51% whiff rate, 32% is average).

Even with the platoon nature of the changeup, I do think a key to his development is figuring out his slider shape. He’s toggled between a few iterations over the last calendar year, presently throwing one that averaged 87 mph with 5” vertical break and 5” glove-side movement, an average shape from his extremely vertical slot. I don’t think he’s as good as Nolan McLean, but his results are undeniable, even if they weren’t as loud as Tolle’s in this first taste of big league hitters.

I have previously vented about how Mendoza & Co. mis-handled this uber-prospect in the fifth inning, so I I am not going into this again.

To me, Tong was rushed into a situation to help a rotation that was bleeding badly and first saw a shot of adrenaline from his fellow prospect, Nolan McLean. Did it work? Err… sort of. Did he survive it? Definitely, yes. And has he solidified his position in the Mets rotation, going forward? 

Err… 


Pitch Profiler                     @pitchprofiler

Jonah Tong has a BIG TIME FASTBALL

 


Thomas Nestico             @TJStats

Jonah Tong made his MLB debut!

Tong fired off 5.0 IP with 6 K and 1 ER as he sat down the Marlins with his elite fastball and changeup combo. His curveball has a key contributor, helping him generate a handful of whiffs

Congratulations to my fellow Canadian!



Prospect Live –

2025 Top 100 Prospects: End-of-Season Update

https://www.prospectslive.com/2025-top-100-prospects-end-of-season-update/?s=03

43. Jett Williams, SS/2B/OF

Scouting Report

Jett Williams could have been a part of the Mets' playoff push had it not been for a right wrist injury that sidelined him for a chunk of the season. Wrist injuries are notorious for sapping power, which was the case for Williams in 2024. Fortunately, power isn't his primary asset. What's particularly exciting about Williams is his transition to center field, a shift that pushes him up the defensive spectrum. While the Mets initially seemed to be grooming him for second base, his double-plus speed and ability to get great routes and jumps should make him a standout in the outfield. Offensively, the wrist injury affected his power output this year, but Williams doesn't profile as a thumper even at full health. His game is built around his speed and ability to slap the ball into gaps, taking advantage of his wheels to cause havoc on the basepaths. His swing is notably flat and linear, enabling him to effectively handle pitches throughout the zone. Williams projects as an ideal, old-school leadoff hitter, a guy who will excel in getting on base, wreaking havoc with his legs, and playing solid defense in center field. While his power might max out at 12-15 homers in his peak years, his speed, defensive versatility, and disciplined approach will more than make up for the lack of pop, making him a valuable piece for the Mets' future. - Rhys White


pitchLogic by F5 Sports                   @pitchlogic

Spin efficiency is crucial as it influences a pitch's movement. It's the percentage of total spin that contributes to that movement. It matters because it enhances movement and maximizes effectiveness. If we throw a 4 seam fastball with 100% efficiency, it will "ride" longer.


Mets Prospect Group                   @bkfan09

Congratulations to Elian Pena for being named  Top MLB Prospect In The DSL Prospect

 


Ernest Dove                   @ernestdove

As a whole the Low A St. Lucie Mets bats were quiet last night, but 20 year old prospect Randy Guzman was 1 for 3 w/ a double.

I'm told Guzman "Walked in a leader day one" and is considered an important piece of their offense.

Has played 1B RF LF & 4 gm 3B in FCL this season.


                Mack –

Randy Enmanuel Guzman, born April 19, 2005, in Tenares, Dominican Republic, is a 20-year-old outfielder and first baseman in the New York Mets' minor league system.

Standing at 6'4" and weighing 215 pounds, he bats and throws right-handed.

Currently active with the Single-A St. Lucie Mets, Guzman has shown promise in his first stateside season.

Notably, on July 29, 2025, he hit an RBI double, contributing to St. Lucie's 10-5 victory over the Jupiter Hammerheads, part of an eight-game winning streak.

He was promoted from the Florida Complex League (FCL) Mets, where he also performed well.

 

Ernest Dove               @ernestdove

After breaking in as a pro baseball player for 2 games in July going 0 for 7. Mets 3rd rd pick Antonio Jimenez in August is hitting .271 with a .365 OBP with a BB/K of 9/9.


                Mack –

Antonio Andres Jimenez, born June 15, 2004, in Hialeah, Florida, is a 21-year-old shortstop in the New York Mets' minor league system. Standing at 6'1" and weighing 200 pounds, he bats and throws right-handed. Drafted by the Mets in the third round (102nd overall pick) of the 2025 MLB Draft out of the University of Central Florida, Jimenez signed for a $564,000 bonus.

In his 2025 college season at UCF, he hit .329/.407/.575 with 14 doubles, 2 triples, 11 home runs, 51 RBIs, and 11 stolen bases in 55 games, earning a spot on the Brooks Wallace Player of the Year Award Watch List. His strikeout rate improved from 30% in 2024 at the University of Miami to 19% in 2025, though his aggressive swing decisions remain a concern for pro ball.

Defensively, Jimenez is a true shortstop with smooth actions, soft hands, above-average range, and a plus-plus arm, capable of 100 MPH throws across the diamond.

Currently active with the Single-A St. Lucie Mets, Jimenez is ranked No. 18 on MLB Pipeline’s Mets Top 30 prospects list, with a 60-grade arm on the 20-80 scouting scale. No 2025 minor league stats are available yet, as he’s early in his professional career.


Lance Brozdowski         lancebroz@substack.com

Mets Nolan McLean continues the legendary start to his career. I gave you my thoughts on him when he debuted, and my main takeaway was wondering what would happen with his lefty approach. Welp, we have our answer. At Triple-A he threw six pitches 10% or more, leading mostly with his four-seam and sweeper. In the majors, we’re seeing more sinker and curveball, the latter jumping from 13% to 22% usage and posting a repertoire-best 20% swinging-strike rate.


MetsRewind                           @metsrewind

Who is the oldest living Mets player? Jim Marshall. We are lucky to have a franchise that still has some of its original team living and healthy! 







28 comments:

Mack Ade said...

Re: yesterday

I'm gonna give this one to David Peterson and just call it a bad outing. A little more concentration and instinct defensively from a starter that is one of the leagues leader in DRS would have created a scoreless first.

What I don't find rewarding is the top two lowest ERA relievers give up three runs after the team scored eight runs to tie it up.

This many runs should produce a win against a team with no pop.

Especially this late in the season

Especially at home

TexasGusCC said...

Lots of interesting stuff. Jimenez throws 100mph as a SS and he only gets a 60 grade arm? LOLLLLLL, how hard do the 65’s and 70’s throw? I’m not asking about the 80’s….

TexasGusCC said...

Inexcusable. As was laying down on Thursday night was this yesterday. To come back from 8-2 down to tie and then have the two month one inning throwing rental at the cost of Gilbert, Tidwell and Butto give up a soft run (because his specialty is soft contact not NO contact) sucked. Then, Mr. automatic got hit too…

Peterson is reverting to his mean. He was good while he lasted, but his August has been mostly crappy.

Meanwhile Philadelphia is just winning and talking about how they dodged a bullet.

JoeP said...

Brutal loss yesterday, no two ways about it.

Thoughts on Tong: think he needed more seasoning. The kid fought through his first outing; I'll give him that. I would give a meh rating.

Let's address the elephant in the room. Stearns has had a horrible season. If he's so smart, he should have seen the writing on the wall. Those trades were ridiculous. He overpaid and lost every trade. Gave up 11 prospects with absolutely nothing to show for it.

He seems to overpay on everything. Very disappointed this year.

Mack Ade said...

Peterson's last five starts:

7.56-ERA

Mack Ade said...

Looks like another middle infielder prospect

Mack Ade said...

Sadly Joe, you are probably right about Sterno (not a typo)

Gary Seagren said...

Gut punch game and coming off the Phillie sweep it hurt that much more but don't the fish do this to us on a regular basis. It reminded me of the Glavine game when he gave up 7 runs in the first inning which ended the 07' season for us of course against the fish.

Rds 900. said...

My guess is that Tong's start compares favorably with a large group that had great careers. You are a tough group.

Mack Ade said...

no Ray

Just me

JoeP said...

And me. I'm tough but fair.

Dean said...

I am a little surprised that some of you are down on Tong's first start where he threw 5 innings, allowed 6 hits and "zero" walks with 6 K's and only 1 ER. Yes, he threw 97 pitches a little high for him as he averaged a little less than 90 in the minors. Realize he only threw 97 pitches because his defense was a little shaky behind him. Yes, he needs to get more efficient like all our pitchers do as he averaged around 3.5 walks per 9 in the minors but he will grow and get better in the years to come. We do not have anyone better so let the kid pitch and improve while pitching for the Mets not in the minors. When Megill comes back I would like to see something different and have Holmes/Megill/Senga/Tong piggy back off each other for as each seems only good for 4 or 5 innings.
The jury should still be out on Stearns; I personally like his moves as he has hit on more than he has missed. Before we say he lost all these trade deadline moves we must wait until the season plays out. Everyone loved the moves when they happened now not so much but the season is still playing out. Yes, he gave away 9/10 prospects but none of them were considered our top prospects or can’t miss. Considering we have traded numerous prospects through the years and really PCA is the only BIG mistake, let’s see if any of them amount to anything.
LETS GO METS!

Tom Brennan said...

Every other topic got covered by readers, but Randy Guzman. I love the “leader” part Ernest brings up, but what I really love? 3 hits last night. Most guys struggle a bit when promoted. In August, he is .351/.398/.623 in 21 games, and that includes a game where he came back from injury and went hitless and fanned 3 times. I am starting to think this kid is a hitter’s version of Jonah Tong.

Eddie from Corona said...

Hmmm I don’t see it the same way with Tong. Isn’t the point to have your best 26 man roster?
Does everyone else feel there are 13 other pitchers better than Tong?
In my opinion Tong has displayed plenty to be here.

Not everyone goes. 7 innings 8ks and 0 runs

I do understand and believe the metrics

But you’re telling me senga and manea are currently (right now) better?

My amateur eyes says no

Eddie from Corona said...

Sterns did have a horrible year… off season plus trade deadline

I never like waiting for the deadline to address needs because I believe it usually cost 2x as much in assets
(Money and prospects)

Even cohens has a budget



Tom Brennan said...

Bad job also getting Baty and Vientos going, too. Why could I diagnose their problem (taking far too many first strikes) and they couldn’t until the second half of the season?

Mack Ade said...

Dean

I spelled it out using analytics, facts, and results

It was a good outing

It was not nirvana

Mack Ade said...

Could be special

Tom Brennan said...

Jonah Tong could live until the year 2100. Think about that.

I am thrilled Tong is in this rotation. Live or die with him and Nolan. I am good with that.

Is anyone still complaining about Soto after getting on base 5 times, including 2 HRs? I hope not.

Tom Brennan said...

Jimenez playing well. I did not realize he wasn’t a DSL promoted player in looking at the box score? Beside him and Voit, who else that was drafted is playing? Oddly, his birthday is June 15, the birth date of Dom Smith and Christian Scott.

JoeP said...

We never said that his outing was bad, it was ok for me. I just felt the move was a bit forced because of Stearns previous missteps.

I think he needs a little more seasoning in AAA to work on his repertoire. He also needs to a pitch or two to his arsenal.

And he definitely is better than half the pitchers right now. I was concerned more with his long-term development.

Tom Brennan said...

Dean, he sat for 30 minutes twice, when the Mets scored 5 in the first and 7 in the second. That freaky Mets offense can throw anyone off their rhythm- I look forward to his next start. He is like a racehorse. He wants to sit for 5 minutes and get back out there.

JoeP said...

Tom, I'm just never going to like Soto. But as long as he wears a Met uniform I will root like hell for him.

To me a Superstar (that is what we paid him to be) hits .300, not .250. He still and always will be a below average outfielder.

I'm just not a proponent of giving away the team for 1 player. That's just me. Leads to a lot of jealousy eventually from other players.

Mack Ade said...

I agree about Tong

I expect him to get better after this and control his riding fastball more

That's how he produced high K/9 %

Mack Ade said...

Mets have a specific scout that looks to find prospects born on June 15

Mack Ade said...

I'm happy he is in Queens but he should have been pulled as soon as that first hit in the fifth

Mack Ade said...

Joe

Do you realize other players, especially the ones who have contract issues, are dancing in the hall regarding how high the salary bar is set now?

They love him

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