8/27/25

MACK - MY Wednesday Observations - Eddie's Ugliness, Carson Benge, Brandon Sproat, Jonah Tong, Injury Update, John Bay, R.J. Gordon, Nick Morabito

 





Morning Thoughts

 I hinted about this in comments on last Sunday Observations post... the ugliness needed in 2026 so you have a clean, controlled, and possible under the luxury tax team going forward.

But let's first take the positive road and discuss what STARS I would keep, at a premium cost, and what “team controlled” players I would have on my 2027 26-man roster.

First, the stars:

1B Pete Alonso – yeah, I know, he’s back in the middle of one of his (too often) slumps, but I checked as I was writing this and he is currently ranked THIRD IN RBIs IN THE LEAGUE. That’s the league, as in the whole league. And that ain’t thirty-third. It’s third. I’ll take this playing first every time and why not pay someone who loves being a Met? Give him $35mil for five years. He’s a star plus you put this position to bed until the next decade.

SS Francisco Lindor – In another of his insane hot finishes. He’s gonna be around through 2031 at an AAV of $34.1mil. Embrace your unnamed Captain.

RF Juan Soto - $51mil AAV through 2039. Next…

CL Edwin Diaz - $20.4mil AAV through 2028, but he has an opt out at the end of this season, which he most probably is going to execute since he is currently back at the top of his game. Pay him $25mil a year for five years. He may not be your closer in the last couple of years of this contract, but he will still be a worthy part of your pen.

So…

Four stars at $145,000,000 

Now, the new breed:

C Francisco Alvarez – Thumbs aside, once Frankie figures out how to stop hurting himself, he WILL establish himself as a productive starter going forward until something better comes along. I no longer think he is going to be the end-all, but he will be a productive bat.

C "Pick-em" - could be Hayden Senger. Or Kevin Parada. Or even Chris Suero. Any of the three would fit in just fine as backup for "The Thumb".

2B/CF Jett Williams – easily my future second baseman and a pretty decent backup outfielder to boot.

3B/2B Brett Baty – I have reapplied to the Baty Fan Club and I have him now placed as my starter on third. Also adds versatility as a backup at second.

LF/CF AJ Ewing – you are just gonna love this guy leading off and becoming one of the steal leaders in the league. Can flip-flop positions with the next guy in center.

CF/LF/RF Carson Benge – I think Benge is going to be a real star in this game. Does everything well.

OF Nick Morabito – Soto, Benge, and Ewing are in the way of Nick being a starter, but I would play him as often as I could as the the first backup in the outfield,

LHDH Ryan Clifford - a little bit of a Swiss army knife.  A perfect backup at first, adequate backup in the corner outfield positions, and huge power against RHP.

RHDH Mark Vientos – Currently producing only a -0.4-WAR, but capable of 25-30 home run seasons. He and Clifford could combine for some awesome power numbers coming from the DH position.

SP Jonah Tong – this is easy… Tong will be my SP1 by now. Probably sometime in 2026. It’s sad that I will die of old age before I can see the Mets retire his number someday.

SP Nolan McLean – really, another easy decision. McLean is on the path of becoming the 2027 SP2.

SP/RP Christian Scott – Scott is going to be on this team. I just aren’t sure in what a capacity. My money is on him returning to be a productive member of the rotation, but, he that’s not achievable, he will be in the pen.

SP/RP Jack Wenninger – like Scott, his future role is undefined right now. I think he’s an active candidate for the SP5 slot.

RP Tylor Megill  - Not stuck. Megill will exclusively be in my pen as along man. Period.

RP Dylan Ross – To me, Ross will some day become the Mets closer when Diaz slows down. Until then, a perfect 8th inning speed demon.

RP Douglas Orellana – someone I have touted for years. I look for him to have a banner year in 2026 at Syracuse and then on to my pen in 2027.

RP Jonathan Santucci – Lastly, another swing starter/reliever who I would start him off in my pen. 

This is 18 in some stage of team-controlled stats, be it early on or in the late stages of their ARB years. Let’s round it off and say they average one mil salary each. That’s $18,000,000 to add to $145,000.00 you spent on your four stars… you now have:

                          21 members of your 26-man:  $ 163,000,000

FOUR more to be decided. A utility infielder... a starter… and two more relievers.

And there are TWO players I don’t know what to do with right now…

SP/RP/?P Brandon Sproat – really putting up some topsy-turvy stat lines lately, Especially the last one. I will revisit this by the end of the season to see if this very talented pitcher can straighten his arse up.

SP David Peterson – David will be a free agent in 2027. He also will be 31/years old. I have to think about this one.

                Now  for Eddie's Ugliness.

Here are the players that are still under contract in 2027 and beyond. ALL have to be either traded or released. Some trades may result in partial amounts of monies owed being paid by the new teams, but the Mets have to be ready to eat all of this if they want to truly build a manageable team that can also compete.

They are:

LF Brandon Nimmo – the biggest meal. Nimmo has $20.5mil/yr. coming to him through 2030. For those of you that majored in Sports Management, that’s $20.5mil x 4 = $82,000,000.00.

2B/CF Jeff McNeil – club can opt out after the 2026 season. I would.

SP Kodai Senga – you have to judge his 2027 value vs. Tong. One year left at $15,000,000

SP Sean Manaea – also have to judge his 2027 value vs. McLean. Only one year left at $22,009,000.

SP Clay Holmes – also have to judge his 2027 value vs. either Sproat or Scott. One year left at $12,667,000

Total monies that could be eaten:  $131,676,000.

But you still have $82,676.000 more in 2026 salaries here if you truly want to be free of this. That would result in a total ugly meal of:

                                           $ 214,352,000

Such a deal. Would Steve do this? 

Hell no. But he may buy the $131,676,000 reduction that clears the runway in 2027. 


TJStats - MLB Top 100 Prospects: August 2025

https://tjstats.ca/p/mlb-top-100-prospects-august-2025?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54380177-2087-4cd8-8644-944c1dcb424e_5940x4469.png&open=false

11) Carson Benge - OF – NYM

 


The Good

Benge has solidified himself as one of the most complete prospects in MiLB. None of these tools are exceptional, yet they all grade out at least average to make him one of the safest bets to be an MLB regular, especially as a CF.

The Bad

His spray tendencies and flatter bat path will likely limit his power upside.


The 9 best starters still in Triple A

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6568174/2025/08/22/triple-a-starters-bubba-chandler-outlooks/

Brandon Sproat, RHP, New York Mets

Is Sproat being passed by Tong on the Mets’ depth chart like Nolan McLean just did? If he is, it’s because of the quality of the fastballs. All three of his breaking balls — a sweeper, curveball and slider — are positives by stuff, and he commands them well enough to make them above-average pitches. His sinker is slightly above-average by stuff and he commands it well. But the four-seam doesn’t rate well in any facet other than velocity, and that leaves him short of a fastball to use against lefties, with below-average command to boot. Can he rely on the velocity, shape be damned? That seems to be the plan so far, as he’s throwing the 88 Stuff+ four-seam to lefties in Triple A right now. And that league is hitting over .300 against the pitch.

The bet here is that Sproat won’t crack the Mets’ roster this year as he works on refining his fastball mix and command — especially since he doesn’t have a roster spot waiting for him.


Thomas Nestico from TJStats                     tjstats@substack.com

Jonah Tong - NYM

 


Jonah Tong has lit the world on fire with strikeouts this season with an MiLB leading 179 K on the heels of his high riding fastball and killer changeup. The most apparent aspect of Tong’s profile is his unorthodox delivery which comes with a cross-bodied stride and an over-the-top slot. Not only is this a distinct angle that batters are not typically used to seeing, Tong does an effective job at concealing the ball until it is released out of his hand.

Tong’s fastball is his bread-and-butter thanks to its ~19" iVB while sitting 94-96 MPH, which is +2 MPH harder than in 2024. His smaller stature and above-average extension allow him to get down to a ~6 ft vertical release point. Tong’s changeup is the most notable development this season and has boosted him to AAA after an utter dominant showing AA. The offering has an ideal combination of velocity and vertical separation from his fastball which allows to stump opposing batters.

 

The next step for Tong to thrust himself into the Mets rotation is better command and more confidence in his breaking balls. He has essentially operated as a 2-pitch pitcher this season, and while it has been a resounding success, he will need more weapons in order to tackle MLB lineups. His 2nd AAA start was more encouraging from a developmental standpoint as he trusted his full arsenal and flashed better control. Tong is one of the best pitching prospects in baseball, and the results back it up. He might not join the Mets as a starter right now, but he has the tools to be a wicked bullpen piece down the stretch.


Isaac Groffman                isaacgrofman@substack.com

Jonah Tong’s Changeup Transformation: How a Simple Seam Orientation Shift Created a Plus Pitch

 


Jonah Tong’s changeup has quietly become one of the most improved pitches in the Mets system. A longtime concern around him has been the lack of arsenal depth, but since his call-up to Triple-A, where we finally got Statcast data on him for the first time since he was 20, the conversation has shifted. Once labeled as a one-pitch arm with a great fastball, Tong is now being talked about as a legitimate two-pitch pitcher with a fastball–changeup combo.

In his Triple-A stint, Tong’s changeup is showing nearly eight more inches of depth, five more inches of run, and he’s throwing it about two miles per hour harder. What makes this fascinating is that the spin axis hasn’t changed since 2024. His arm angle and release height are the same. On paper, you’d expect the movement profile to remain steady.

So how did he unlock all that extra movement without changing much at all?

The Grip Change

On the Meet at the Apple podcast, Tong described the tweak in detail. He didn’t abandon his signature Vulcan grip. Instead, he simply shifted where he positioned it on the baseball, moving from a four-seam orientation to a two-seam orientation.

This subtle shift changed the way the seams interacted with the air, unlocking seam-shifted wake effects that weren’t present before.

Four-seam CH (left): Relies heavily on pronation to generate movement. Tong, like many pitchers, likely doesn’t pronate particularly well, which limited the pitch’s effectiveness.

Two-seam CH (right): Allows him to “cut” the ball slightly, something he already does well with his fastball, and lets the seams take over. The result is additional movement from seam-shifted wake without requiring him to force pronation.

Why It Matters

For a pitcher like Tong, who already has a strong fastball foundation, the improved changeup gives him a real weapon against opposite-handed hitters. By pairing natural seam effects with a grip that better suits his mechanics, he’s not only added depth and run but also disguised the pitch more effectively by maintaining the same spin axis.

It’s a perfect example of how small adjustments, sometimes as simple as moving your fingers a fraction of an inch, can unlock dramatic results.

 

Injury Update –

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6573416/2025/08/25/this-week-in-mets-where-must-mets-improve/

Injury updates

Francisco Alvarez      UCL sprain in right thumb      September

Jesse Winker              Lower back inflammation      September

Tylor Megill                 Right elbow sprain                  September

Jose Siri                        Fractured left tibia                  September

Griffin Canning           Ruptured left Achilles             2026

A.J. Minter                   Left lat strain                            2026

Danny Young               Tommy John surgery              2026

Max Kranick                 Elbow surgery                          2026

Christian Scott             Tommy John surgery              2026

Drew Smith                  Tommy John surgery               2026

Nick Madrigal               Left shoulder fracture             2026

Dedniel Núñez              Tommy John surgery               2027

Frankie Montas             Right elbow UCL injury           2027

Francisco Alvarez will be re-evaluated this week after the inflammation in his right thumb has sufficiently subsided to see if he can go on a rehab assignment and actually swing the bat despite the torn ligament in that thumb. Players have played through that injury before; they don’t remember the experience fondly.

Things escalated quickly for Frankie Montas, who has a “significant” UCL injury that sounds like it’s headed for surgery that would jeopardize the entirety of his 2026 season. Montas’ trip to the IL simplifies some roster machinations for this year’s Mets, but losing him as even an option for 2026 or modest eat-most-of-the-money trade bait this winter would hurt.

Jose Siri should begin a rehab assignment this week, which would make him an option for the big-league club in mid-September.

Jesse Winker still hasn’t started baseball activities. It’s getting tougher to envision a return for Winker this season.

 

Mets Player Development            @MetsPlayerDev

John Bay went on an absolute TEAR!

He is the Mets Minor League Player of the Week

 


 Mets Player Development              @MetsPlayerDev

R.J. Gordon fired a scoreless outing on Wednesday, earning him the @Mets Minor League Pitcher of the Week!

 


 How A Pair Of Top 10 Mets Prospects Highlight A Quirk In 40-Man Roster Decisions

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/how-a-pair-of-top-10-mets-prospects-highlight-a-quirk-in-40-man-roster-decisions/?s=03

Mets Righthander Jonah Tong and center fielder Nick Morabito spent most of this season as teammates with Double-A Binghamton. Both players were drafted out of high school in 2022—Tong in the seventh round and Morabito in the compensatory second round after Noah Syndergaard signed with the Angels as a free agent.

Both Tong and Morabito were 19 years old when drafted and signed by the Mets. Morabito, however, must be added to the 40-man roster after this season—a year earlier than Tong—or else be subject to selection in the Rule 5 draft.

Why is that?

The answer has to do with the players’ birth dates. Both were born in 2003, but Morabito was born on May 7 while Tong was June 19. That means they slot in on opposing sides of the June 5 cutoff date that determines player age for Rule 5 draft purposes.

Forty-three days in 2003 is all that separates the two players by birth date, but it translates to a full season of Rule 5 draft exemption.  

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21 comments:

JoeP said...

Mack, I absolutely love this. I had to go back and check the article because I thought this was going to be about 2026. I was bewildered as to how all these rookies would make the team.

Back to reality, this goes right in line with my way of thinking. With McNeil and Montas gone I would hope we are able to trade away several of the players without eating too much salary.

bill metsiac said...

Excellent analysis, as usual! Only a few points I disagree with:
Peterson is our current ACE, and unless he regresses next year he's a keeper. 31 is not "old".
Nimmo is locked in for too many years to be released. Possible trade candidate, but otherwise a keeper.
McNeil is arguably the MVU (Utilitymanl around. No need to move him unless his demands are too high.

On another note, Bay is impressing. Hopefully he will be better than the other Bay in Mets history.

JoeP said...

If you don't want to commit to Peterson long term, he will be highly tradable.

Mack Ade said...

Thank you

I'm sure some.money could be saved, but Steve can afford this.

All monies lost could be paid in full and add to 2026 only

Mack Ade said...

Points taken

But that's your plan.

Yes, mine is severe

Mack Ade said...

True

I just need to see how he finishes the season before I add him

Gary Seagren said...

Someday in the future long after I'm long gone Mr. Sterns will write a book about all the WS teams he put together which would be great except I hope he includes the WTF "additions" of Montas Mullins and Siri in 2025 to balance things out a bit. Also can we send Brazoban to anywhere except Citi field please!

Eddie from Corona said...

You are the man Mack,
I agree with 99% ...
Sterns grew up in the small markets and what do they do in those markets, Get ride of bad contracts.
Nimmo is the hardest but highest priority because he can still perform.
I dont understand why we don't sell and acquire at the deadlines. Nimmo may have been one of the highest values bats available in this deadline. Would it be crazy to trade him? Would he hurt the clubhouse? Maybe but being bold is not for the weak.

That's passed. he is owed 82 million, pay 22 save 60. Heck if your really bold you pay his entire 2026 salary making it easy to for a team figure the finances down the road.

McNeill should be a easy trade candidate, if Jett is ready then McNeill is replaced.

BE BOLD STERN... you already don't care what people say about you....

Tom Brennan said...

Nimmo is a true leader. After the game, after he professionally laced a fierce 102 MPH fireball for the game winning hit, he lauded Brett Baty for fighting through his at bats with against Duran and winning the AB with a bloop single. He spent 20-30 seconds talking Baty up, which had to be HUGE to Baty: you’re one of us, and you will have a fine career. Then, he exhorted the fans to keep coming to fire up the players. WOW.

Add in 71 RBIs in 465 at bats…hard to say good bye to that.

I would move on from < 5 innings Manaea, and Senga. Let’s see what Tong does. Youth movement in 2026.

I think Jon Santucci is CLOSE. By MID-2026.

I think Benge will adjust and add power - just as Nimmo has.

I watched Vientos’ RBI single at bats with. I think he got my repeated message….he was AGGRESSIVE. He swung at every strike. I was thrilled.

Montas will never pitch for the Mets again. He will however get paid.

Clifford has just 4 weeks and the AFL(?) to persuade the Mets he can begin to replace Pete. Pete likely needs to stay. Move the fences in for him.

Back to Clifford: he played in two pitchers’ parks in Bingo and Coney, now we start to see what he can do in a normal park.

Senger to back up Alvarez early if they are convinced Parada can hit above .200 in the bigs by mid-2026. Parada should be promoted to AAA right after the AA playoffs.

RJ Gordon is10-2. How about that?

Tom Brennan said...

Any hitters who have a real chance to play for the Mets early in 2026 should go to the AFL again, even if they went once before. Parada stunk when he went. He needs at bats to make his case for 2026.

He may never be # 50, Cal Raleigh, but he can be good.

Parada, Williams, Clifford, Benge, Reimer - all to the AFL if they can send 5 hitters. Pete had his huge 2018 AA/AAA season, but went toteAFL, because he was hungry and teardown the door - and he did.

Steve said...

Mack -

For the most part, I am in agreement with you.
With all his warts, Alonso is a productive 1st baseman. I would look at 4 years at just over $25 with options. Say he may not age well.
I agree with Tom in that Nimmo adds to the clubhouse. I hate the contract but I love the player. I see him as Cap't #3. That would make Mirabito the add man out.
Reimer has my interest as a bat off the bench that would take Morabito's place on the roster. Granted, he does not have the glove but he plays all over the field.
As you stated above, my team. Bottom line, the transition to the 2027 team is starting now with the addition of McLain and Tong.

Mack Ade said...

You and I will pass with STILL only two WS rings

Bank on it

Viper said...

How many players do the Mets have that can play all OF positions and practically all infield positions except for catcher?. Not only that, but plays them at a ML level?. Only one Jeff McNeil. I would keep him over Nimmo anytime.
I don't see a reason to get rid of Peterson.

I know that Diaz has a great arm and is pitching lights out right now but if he doesn't learn how to hold players, I would let him walk. He can't just walk a batter and turn it into a triple, he just can not.

Mack Ade said...

I'm sticking to my plan no matter how cruel it is

Mack Ade said...

I understand your thoughts on Nimmo

But you only have THREE slots for starting outfield

Soto has one

The Mets will have FOUR legitimate outfielders ready to step in

Mack Ade said...

I haven't got rid of Peterson yet

That Adam Smith said...

I don’t see how it’s possible to get rid of Nimmo. You’d likely need to pay off half his salary to even move him, much less get any value in return, and in truth, he’s worth more to this team, both on the field and in the clubhouse than the $10m per you’d likely save. Also, if McNeil has another season in ‘26 like he’s having in ‘25 - an above league-average OPS every single month of the season, in a lineup that is notoriously hot and cold, and can still play at least four positions adequately - then I definitely exercise his ‘26 option, even if I didn’t intend to start him every day. Pete is coming back. I’d bet anything on it. He’s having his best offensive season maybe ever, he’s a lifetime Met who wants to be here, and is beloved by the fan base. Say 4/$125 or 5/$140. Hope that Clifford has a monster year in AAA next season at 23 yrs old and make him the centerpiece of a trade package.

JoeP said...

I like Mack's idea better. You either go all in or not.

Remember he's talking about 2027 team. McNeil and Montas will be gone. Manaea and Senga will have one more year left. Much more tradable. Nimmo is the only tough one. If you add 5m per year he would be tradable.

Rds 900. said...

If Benge, Williams and Ewing are future Mets, space will be needed. Start with Nimmo and....

Tom Brennan said...

I did an article on the Nimmo contract months ago. It (the contract) essentially is 8 years, straight line, $20 million per.

If it was done to realistically match age-related decline expectations, over 8 age-adjusted years, he would have been instead paid something like $34 MM year 1, $30 MM year 2, $25 MM year 3, $22 MM year 4, $18 MM year 5; $14 million year 6; $10 MM year 7; $7 MM year 8. That adds up to $160 MM.

After this year, he is owed roughly $100 million for 5 years. By my calculation, it really should be $49 MM. So, to move him, the Mets would have to eat $51 MM. They knew that when they did the contract.

Tom Brennan said...

So, if Nimmo was traded at next year’s trade deadline, they would likely have to eat half of what is left.